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Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

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  1. nbetiger

    nbetiger Well-Known Member

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    it was the other outfield player's who let him down and apparently someone who was sat behind the home dugout noticed that there was no coaching or messages to the players from the coaching staff
     
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  2. HullCityInEurope

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    I wonder if Rosenior on the touchline barking instructions would've made any difference. He shouldn't have to baby players through games but it appears some of them need it. I seem to remember Jose saying Shaw was only capable of playing when on his side of the pitch as he could instruct him.
     
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  3. Shark Sports

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    It's worrying that pro footballers can't think on their feet.

    Ingram should've gone long , and if he gets it in the ear from LR afterwards, he can say well he didn't have any instruction or movement. I didn't really see him screaming at players either nor did anyone else mind and there was no decision on how to fix the situation.

    At least we'd have been in the 2nd round.
     
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  4. HCAFCHangout

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    It wasn't but he wasn't faultless either
     
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  5. Mckechnie Orange

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    I do wonder if the training is so prescriptive that it coaches the initiative out of them.

    Or whether they've just downed tools in response to the fitness regime.

    Somethings clearly up though because they've gone backwards from last season based on the first 2 games.
     
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  6. Shark Sports

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    He was the man who had the power to change it though. And they better be prepared as Wednesday will be doing in on Saturday
     
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  7. HCAFCHangout

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    I dont think he himself could have changed much either. Yes when we played it long we had mixed success with most of our success being on the far flanks to Christie and a few moments where Lokilo nearly beat the high line

    But even then it was in times where Ingram could have played it much quicker he either didn't or there were no options. To be honest a lot of the time there wasn't a spare man in passages of play. Teams create man advantages and angles to beat the press and we just haven't done it this year when we were doing it last year.
     
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  8. highpeak tiger

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    On occasions, Ingram played it long, we won a throw in. Throw in back to defender, defender to Ingram. What's he supposed to do now? Rinse and repeat.
     
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  9. willyfog

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    I think Rosenior has challenged the players more in terms of positions to take up and movements to make to create space when we have the ball. All teams do this to some extent to manipulate the opposition to create space to advance the ball up the pitch. When we reach the final third there is much more reliance on players instinct, although the runs forwards make will still be trained.

    The ability of out players to understand and implement this is another matter.

    In terms of the fitness regime this is more to enable us to press and take up a good shape quickly in transition (aka when we win it lose the ball).
     
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  10. Ernie Shackleton

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    For the first 10 minutes last night Donny pressed our back 5 and we comfortably passed around them, attacked confidently and scored.

    If they'd have continued with that approach we'd have mullered them.

    But they didn't. They started to man mark everyone who was an out ball for Ingram and we didn't know how to respond.

    At that point Ingram should have wellied a couple up to Delap and Connolly and given Donny a different problem to think about.


    It's our lack of flexibility and adaptability that's the problem, not simply our philosophy of playing out from the back.
     
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  11. highpeak tiger

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    Lost in translation maybe
     
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  12. NewcastleTiger

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    Yep, in that spell Ingram was the issue. Forcing passes into Simons and Traore, helping Donny feel more comfortable in the game. Traore ****ed up for their goal but Ingram probably shouldn’t have passed to him, like he had done 4/5 times already. Way too predictable
     
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  13. willyfog

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    Or perhaps over thought by the manager. Might need to simplify things a bit!
     
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  14. Mckechnie Orange

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    Doesn't stop players moving to create angles though does it?

    There was literally nothing like that after the first mistake.
     
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  15. AcunsBurnerAccount™

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    1. Pirlo was an outfield player, not a goalkeeper.
    2. Pirlo retired 5 years ago.

    The rubbish that people come out with on this board.
     
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  16. Benjo

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    It wasn't just Ingram's fault yesterday, but Connolly, Lokilo and Oscar were making movements at first. They probably slowed this down when they realised Ingram chose this option only rarely.

    Doesn't help that everyone else didn't do anything at all.
     
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  17. Mckechnie Orange

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    I think he's highlighting the fact that pirlo was one of the best distributors with the ball at his feet regardless of position but if your team mates are static you still have no one to pass to.
     
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  18. The B&S Fanclub

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    Yes, it was painful to watch. Ingram had the ball at his feet for seemingly ages, but there was very very little movement in front of him. He just might as well had got the ball and hoofed it down the middle of the park and played for knock ons...When he did we seemed to get a few results...Seems as if we've been sussed very early, opponents just stayed glued to us knowing that we'll either feck it up and present a chance or go back to the keeper. Therefore ditch the Man City stuff and go back to the ball into a loaded last third.
     
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  19. AcunsBurnerAccount™

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    I'd like to see Man City try that Man City stuff on a cold winter night at Stoke.
     
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  20. Ric Glasgow

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    I think the mild sarcasm contained in the post has aerodynamically whooshed over your wattle...
     
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