Offside Rule Change

[bcfcredandwhite]

I read recently that FIFA have reportedly agreed to trial a new law, proposed by Arsene Wenger, in Sweden, Netherlands and Italy, where the entire body of the player must be in front of the defender for it to be offside.
Will be interesting to see how that goes. Strange it’s only happening in 3 countries and not across the whole football world. Could cause confusion when rules are different in different countries.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

It sounds like a sound plan rather than someone’s elbow being technically offside, but I’m guessing that unless it’s adopted by FIFA and UEFA then it won’t be lawful in the Champions League, World Cup or European Championship ?

 

[AshtonRed]

It sounds like a sound plan rather than someone’s elbow being technically offside, but I’m guessing that unless it’s adopted by FIFA and UEFA then it won’t be lawful in the Champions League, World Cup or European Championship ?

Same thing though really, just in reverse, if the attackers elbow is clear of the last defender or in line with him .

 

[realred1952]

If a player is moving forward at any speed then the point the ball is kicked absolute moment it comes in contact then both pictures need to be the same split second for say an elbow or small fraction of the offender .. this will surely lead to more anguish about he was or was not?

 

[AshtonRed]

If a player is moving forward at any speed then the point the ball is kicked absolute moment it comes in contact then both pictures need to be the same split second for say an elbow or small fraction of the offender .. this will surely lead to more anguish about he was or was not?

Agreed, for me the rule should be clear and obvious, attacking side to have priority, if they are having to spend time figuring it out ,then not offside. Makes it fairer and prevents delays while they spend ages making a decision

 

[realred1952]

at the mo My point is that split second![ human observation v repeated frame by frame unitl 2 camera's get the moment ] eg 23 mins and 16 secs into game "offside!" frames will show parts of a second ... 16.101 or 102 etc etc. At what speed do they film at? 40 fps 60fps xx? fps.
it doesnt matter how they choose to do it, it will never be perfect.. The ref makes a decision ... opposition to player offside appealS .... REF goes to touchline and picture goes up on screen touchline and stadium .. he watch's a replay with the camera nearest to his focal point and see's 10 sec build up and 5 post event maybe twice and makes his decision. In the 30 - 60 secs or so he takes to get to the screen backroom boys should have it ready.

 

[AshtonRed]

at the mo My point is that split second![ human observation v repeated frame by frame unitl 2 camera's get the moment ] eg 23 mins and 16 secs into game "offside!" frames will show parts of a second ... 16.101 or 102 etc etc. At what speed do they film at? 40 fps 60fps xx? fps.
it doesnt matter how they choose to do it, it will never be perfect.. The ref makes a decision ... opposition to player offside appealS .... REF goes to touchline and picture goes up on screen touchline and stadium .. he watch's a replay with the camera nearest to his focal point and see's 10 sec build up and 5 post event maybe twice and makes his decision. In the 30 - 60 secs or so he takes to get to the screen backroom boys should have it ready.

Once they are having to get that precise it isn’t clear and obvious, any doubt give benefit to the attacker

 

[invermeremike]

I would like to see the are in which you can be offside to be reduced to let's say 35 yards from the goal line. To be caught offside 6 inches over the half way line reduces the fast breakaway opportunities and so an extra 15+ yards in which you can build your attack would be beneficial, I think.

 

[Cliftonville]

I would like to see the are in which you can be offside to be reduced to let's say 35 yards from the goal line. To be caught offside 6 inches over the half way line reduces the fast breakaway opportunities and so an extra 15+ yards in which you can build your attack would be beneficial, I think.

This would not occur. Teams would drop off (low blocks) and this slows the game down.

 

[AshtonRed]

This would not occur. Teams would drop off (low blocks) and this slows the game down.

That’s a good point, I didn’t think of that.

 

[invermeremike]

If they continue to use the VAR why on earth can they not input the parameters that decide offside, or not, and let the computer be the final arbiter on whether the foul be awarded, or a goal given if it is not offside? Tennis uses that determination but I'm not sure if the umpire can overrule the call.