We'll have to agree to disagree then. I agree that Johnson, as an individual, is an unpleasant person and a liar. But disliking someone for the school they went to or their background is the same as any other form of bigotry. You can believe I'm looking at them through a lens, it makes no difference to me, but I can assure you I'm not. I will treat any other party that comes to power the same way, and attempt to understand what they do without any preconceived bias.
The bullingdon club isn’t just a school though is it. It celebrates its wealth and elite status and scoffs at the poor. Your party elected two of them as leader. And so the poor have suffered
There's a diminishing amount of those left thankfully - good post by the way. I voted for Brexit - would I now? - no way. I'm annoyed I was conned by the lies about the reinvestment into the NHS and I hope the liars get their comeuppance one day because they've harmed so many UK folk. Thankfully I didn't vote for Bozo but how anyone can say they don't regret voting for him knowing what we do now is in denial unfortunately and not brave enough to admit they were conned imo.
One of the "initiations" into the Bullingdon club was to burn a £50 note in front of a homeless person. They stood on tables in restaurants shouting "**** the plebs". The members who got into politics basically did that while in office. Putting one of them in charge of the countries finances is akin to putting Dracula in charge of a blood bank
But you're only offended by the Bullingdon club because you've already got a bias against the kind of person who would join it. What makes it my party then? This is where you let yourself down. Anyone who isn't falling over themselves to stick the knife into the current government must be a Tory , and therefore evil. And there are people who say the same thing if you don't slavishly say that everything Labour do is brilliant. Its completely ridiculous. This is precisely what's wrong with political discussion in this country.
I'll take issue with that mate if that's OK? The poster you replied to clearly said there were other voting options at the last election - definitely didnt say vote Labour or else you're an evil tory . Is that fair?
He didn't say that, no. But neither did I, I said: "Anyone who isn't falling over themselves to stick the knife into the current government must be a Tory , and therefore evil. And there are people who say the same thing if you don't slavishly say that everything Labour do is brilliant."
To be fair the current government isn't worthy of much praise and a lot of people are really suffering because of their actions. I've never seen a government fighting itself while failing to govern the country. Johnson, Truss and Sunak have wasted/cost millions, seen all kinds of terrible records broken, strikes by people who rarely strike and made huge promises they know won't happen. Do I feel like sticking the knife in, yes to be honest.
The mask slips every other day now. Blind hatred and jealousy of anyone doing better than they are, regardless of how that money was made.
That's fair enough but there are different ways to approach it and taking a more dispassionate view doesn't make anyone wrong or bad..
It's not even that for me. It's this 'if you're not with us, you're against us' attitude. Or in some cases, 'demonstrate your allegiance or I will assume your allegiance'.
I’m not particularly warm on Labour right now but it’s hard to be as angry at people who have no power so aren’t implementing these obnoxious policies, I’d argue evil policies. Capping benefits while freeloading the top 10% and overseas capitalist Uber rich opportunists wanting to get rich from our middle classes, forcing vulnerable hopeless people onto a plane to somewhere genocidal with little hope for a few hate fuelled brownie points. Your mistake is accepting and even voting for this inhuman approach on the grounds of being open minded. Surrendering the power of every day struggling people to the fee paying elite on the misguided belief that you are being open minded. People probably less well off than us have little choice and need our voice man. There is no defence for this current government’s methodology and philosophy but there are other political options.
Away with the fairies it seems. Nobody can criticise anyone who has wealth was the implication I think or else they are just jealous - imagine if our ancestors had tugged their forelocks as much as that one?
