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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    That's the point though isn't it? That the competition is much harder these days, Inter (who finished 2nd in Serie A the year before) are a far far better team than e.g. the champions of Northern Ireland or Iceland.
     
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  2. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    I'd be all over this, if he's willing to step down a league for the sake of his development.
     
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  3. Iain

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    Seems to basically confirm what I was told and posted a few days back.
     
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  4. Hudson92

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  5. rooch 3

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    Wonder how much Will payed them.
     
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    Wasn't impressed by him tbh. Down there he just ran about kicking people and lost his head as they were chasing the game.
     
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  7. Scout73

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    Watched some of his highlights, looks rapid - poor decision making but he looks a threat. He plays on either wing by the look of it but he looks better on the left so probably be an option as a back up to Clarke. Can beat his opponent inside or out with pace, he is right footed but looked comfortable getting to the byline and crossing with his left foot

    Some Stats from this season:
    Goals = 2
    Assists = 3
    Completes 70% of his passes - mostly looks to pass forward
    Averages 7.55 dribbles a game and completes just under 50% of these (needs to learn not to dribble into the crowded area of the pitch)
    Averages 2.29 crosses a game - completes 40% of these (pretty good stats for crosses completed)
    Also regains 4.57 balls in the opposition half - this is the stat teams look at for whether they could be an effective presser so this suits us

    Overall looks a decent prospect especially as a back up with the upside to really push Clarke
     
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  8. rooch 3

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    This is a good read if you haven’t already read it mate.perhaps the best place to start is to imagine Huddersfield Town, 13th in the Championship last season, winning promotion next May, then the Premier League at the first attempt, back-to-back Champions Leagues, a couple of Capital One Cups and creating a record for going unbeaten in the top division – 42 matches in Forest’s case – that would last a quarter of a century.
    Forest were that team: 13th in the old Division Two when Clough landed his coat on the peg for the first time, on 6 January 1975. They did all the above within five years, as well as knocking Liverpool, the double European Cup winners, off their perch, long before Sir Alex Ferguson coined the phrase. They did it with five players – Anderson, Martin O’Neill, Ian Bowyer, Tony Woodcock and John Robertson – who were there from the start and the journey took them from five points off the relegation places into Division Three, with sub-8,000 gates, to Camp Nou, taking on Barcelona for the Super Cup. Another trophy was added to the collection and when they left the stadium that night there was a mob waiting outside. “Two rows of Barcelona fans, eight deep, all the way from the exit to our coach,” John McGovern, the captain, recalls. “They were all very quiet and I thought: ‘We could be in trouble here.’ It was then they started clapping. As we walked to our coach they clapped us all the way. Not a Forest fan in sight, all Barcelona fans. Clapping us out of their own stadium.”

    The story will never happen again but, equally, it had never happened before either. People forget that Forest went up with 52 points, the fifth-lowest of any promoted team in history, and that they lost to York, Peterborough and, twice, Bristol Rovers before Peter Taylor joined Clough’s side and everything suddenly clicked with a team described in one newspaper as “a mix of fresh and well-worn faces who ought to be slogging it out at the bottom of the table”.
     
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  9. Hudson92

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    Not accusing him of pulling Info from here but I’m sure @Fly Me To The Moon mentioned him when the Portuguese link was made a week or so ago
     
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  10. Southern A

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    Will Grigg dropping down to the National League :D
     
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  11. rowley

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    Of course not. They are a huge club with a lot of money. But the point holds that they have limits, hence backing out of the Bellingham deal, and a club funded by a country does not. That's all it comes down to.

    If Liverpool or Arsenal waste big amounts, which on occasion they have, it hurts them. Mistakes don't really hurt City. And no one trusts their accounts, but they can't be taken on because they have a limitless legal defence budget.

    This does not detract from Pep's ability, but it does give context to his achievements .
     
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    He'll be a comfortable millionaire though. Nice work if you can get it, and then not bother doing it!
     
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    And you just know it’s everybody else’s fault.
     
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    He was the winger I was on about the other day
     
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    I see what you meant when you said a rapid winger - the guy has some speed
     
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    Aye he's supposed to be rapid like.

    I didn't really want to mention his name or position incase people took it as JC being off somewhere
     
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    Just popped up in my news feed! Interesting

    https://apple.news/AhXcLTUNAR0SDLBHbwnpf2Q
     
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    We dominated Europe in that period because two of the best managers this country has ever seen, produced teams that Were capable of dominating Europe, no other English team have done that,as for English teams were spending money, i think you’ll find pre-premier times the only country where the big wages were was Italy
     
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    Keegan, Rush, Souness, Kennedy, Dalgliesh? Weren’t exactly pennies.. Forest smashed the British transfer record when they signed Trevor Francis, for double the previous record.

    Success in English football has generally followed the money most of the time. Liverpool late 70s/80s, Everton/Arsenal late 80s, United 90s then Chelsea after the millennium and City after that.
     
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  20. Oliver's Army

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    Go on then....


    Not a clue what level some of these games are at. Some of the stadiums make Eppleton look like Wembley
     
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