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Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    We do and we don't

    In terms of developing young talent from other leagues, we do as Sonny, Eriksen and various others - although Ndombele has seen that trend slam into reverse, and there's no denying we've bungled Bryan Gil and, before him, Juan Foyth

    In terms of developing young talent from lower leagues, not since the era if Walker and Dele - though it does have to be said that's also the profile of player we seem to have stopped signing altogether since Sessegnon and Clarke were signed in the summer if 2019, outside of academy signings like Sayers or Lankshear
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    We've gotten just about everything wrong with transfers over the last 5 or so years, whether it be young players to (not) develop or paying big bucks for people we'd hope would be key signings that have been monumental flops. Add in failure to shift deadwood too, it's been a bit **** to say the least.

    Bentancur and to a lesser extent, Kulu and Romero, have been the only few positives. Porro might be one in time though, as despite his defensive weaknesses he's bloody good to watch going forward.
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    Sonny and Eriksen were playing regularly in elite leagues for years before joining us and were also regulars at senior international level.

    We've bungled pretty much everyone since Dele. He was the last player we signed from a significantly lower league, taking a punt when others hesitated, and reaped more than our reward for doing so.

    That was seven years ago.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    Neither were remotely near being considered elite talents, though, as Eriksen was our backup plan when Willian snuck off to Chelsea while Sonny was a raw talent when he signed in much the same way Bryan is now (or Bergwijn was 2-3 years ago)

    The key difference is that Sonny got regular playing time to become the player he is, which is not what we gave Bergwijn or Foyth and haven't given Bryan or Tanganga, and that’s why we aren't developing players

    This goes down to our academy, too, as for years we only loaned players we only saw as potential sellable assets like Connor Ogilvie yet the ones we thought could step up like Edwards et al never got off the training pitch until their agents had to demand loans
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    They're supposedly shifting Cancelo and Laporte, as well.
    That would sort our defence in one go, honestly.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Over on r/coys they've been fixating on Laporte for weeks

    Probably nothing to do with French fans yelling "Ferme la porte!" at our backline at regular intervals last season

    Sorry...
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    The Retain/Release list is out, which means that @remembercolinlee can

    UPDATE THE OP

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    Clement Lenglet
    Arnaut Danjuma
    Lucas Moura

    Jamie Bowden
    Kallum Cesay
    Malachi ***an-Walcott
    Roshaun Mathurin
    Marqes Muir
    Romaine Mundle

    Thomas Bloxham
    Brandon Bryan-Waugh
    Riley Owen
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    ...have all been released and/or their loans will not be picked up

    Mundle we all knew was leaving, Bowden turns 22 in a few weeks so aged out of the U21s and has come off a rotten run of injuries, ***an-Walcott's development stopped dead due to injury a couple of years ago, while Muir was on trial somewhere at the end of May so

    Cesay's the closest to a surprise of the U21s, but considering he turns 21 in September yet never went on loan it isn't a complete blindside
     
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  8. Toonitus

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    Same story the last 3 windows....good buyers our lot ... Tottenham should call and ask some advice on how to operate in the market.

    Newcastle will be back for Maddison after they've landed Barella (hopefully)

    All jokes aside who are you hoping to sign this summer and what are your expectations for the upcoming season ?
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Ah yes, the transfer strategy that worked out so well for Leicester last season makes you "good buyers"

    And to think, it took you five hours to come up with that drivel...
     
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  10. The Huddlefro

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    Barella is phenomenal and it would be a hell of a coup if you got him. I’m not sure it’ll happen for you, he’s got a long contract and I haven’t seen anything about him wanting to leave Italy. But he’s a player I was wanting us to get when he was at Cagliari.

    As for Spurs we obviously need a refit across the board. Raya is looking like he’ll be the goalkeeper, think he’s a very good keeper and if we can get him for more like 30m I think that’s decent business in today’s market. We need probably 2 or 3 CBs, at least one needs to be left footed or comfortable playing on that side. Midfield needs a big reshuffle. I like Maddison but slightly concerned about his injury record. A lot of fans like Alex Scott at Bristol, very talented youngster and a Spurs fan himself, which is always nice. Hatate at Celtic too. We probably have more players suited to playing at the base of midfield than we do viable options at 8 so I’d expect more recruitment there. Then forwards, assuming no outgoings, we probably need a backup winger, preferably one who can play either side. Obviously if Kane goes that changes everything but it’s not looking likely right now.

    Expectations for next season completely depend on our recruitment. Of the teams above us I can see Newcastle, Villa and Brighton struggling with European football unless they add significant depth. While not being in Europe at all sucks for us it will allow us to hopefully manage the squad a little better and will give Ange more time on the training ground over the season to work with the players, which will be badly needed. We’re going through a massive shift in style of football and I think it’s fair to say we all expect a big transition in the squad too. Ultimately if we get top 6 and the playing style is much improved then I think it’s progress in the right direction. Even though I think the teams I mentioned might struggle in the league, it’s a big ask to jump straight back to top 4. Cups are a lottery but obviously we all want to win one.
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    According to Alasdair Gold, we have not made a double hid for Maddison & Barnes

    Gee, I would hate to be somebody who not only posted that we had like a gullible rube, while also revealing that they hadn't read the article they were posting. That might make somebody who did that look like a clueless numpty with a serious inferiority complex...
     
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  12. Toonitus

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    I'd have to agree barella seems a stretch unless Newcastle offer 70 plus. It reminds me of the Maddison story which never materialised and we ended up signing isak out of nowhere.

    Tottenham having avoided Europe will see the benefits of it like Newcastle did last season.


    You're very troubled I know because unfortunately you've failed to see a reasonable post unlike your fellow poster who's provided a very considered response.

    I think I'm going to make you my next Fosse If you carry on like this much more.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    IIRC Barella has said he wants to stay in Italy anyway

    Nice projection at the end there. Definitely masks the fact you didn't read the article you posted and made a fool of yourself, and when the Daily Mail is making a fool out of you...
     
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  14. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I think you might find that's a wind up account but it's fine it's good to know you need to seek out news to soothe your concern and plight.

    Congratulations you're my next Fosse.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    I think you might find that you're not very good at it, since you're the one who gets wound up

    Congratulations, you're my next Tobes
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    I wasn't talking about me bird brain <laugh>.
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Funnily enough, nobody else talks about you either

    Better work on that self-esteem, eh?
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    Type munse in the search bar and you'll see the inaccuracy in your claim. <laugh>

    Anyway for what it's worth I think Newcastle will land a big name or two, but this Barella story seems a bit strange to me. Newcastle tend to just announce the big signings and the only exception to that was Botman who the Italian press insisted was only interested in Milan.
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    There's nothing sadder than saying you search for your own name

    Anyway, when it comes to Barella, in the past he has said he won't leave Italy - and it has to be said a lot of top Italian players tend to stay in Serie A with the obvious exceptions being Verratti and Donnarumma at PSG, albeit the latter would've been lynched if he stayed in Serie A given that would have likely meant he signed for Inter or Juve as a free agent
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    Headache Watch
    Sport (the Spanish one) report that we are in negotiations with Barca to sign Clement Lenglet for £5m

    Yes, the same Clement Lenglet whose name features quite prominently on our Retain/Release list...

    In other news, Tom Collomosse is having a particularly bad evening as Fabrizio Romano has joining Alasdair Gold in dunking on him
     
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