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[InBiscanWeTrust]

yeah they are good but lets face it mate, they are on 62 points which is great and a couple semi finals.

the styles is great, they were the second best side we played domestically after city (better imo than arsenal) but they still only delivered 62 points

the issue for me is not the decisions they have made, not the manager and not the players staying. Its the glass ceiling on wages. IMO ferguson will be huge for brighton and nobody will pay for mitoma.

the next step is almost impossible for clubs when the vultures are circling constantly.

100%. I guess it’s like West Ham, newcatsle, Leicester, villa have done. Try and break into that top 6 to secure a European place but to do that you generally need 1 or 2 of the traditional top clubs to have an off season. I’m not sure of the stats but I think it’s prob been a while since the ‘big 6’ ended up 1-6 so there is generwlly a spot up for grabs.

Once you’ve got that too 6 spot you’re going to subject to losing your players so it’s how good your forward planning is and brightons is pretty good to be fair to them.

I think every clubs outside those 6 (maybe 7 with newcatsle now) has to be trying to get some sort of European football or win a cup. If you can do that then fans will be thrilled. If you can keep doing that on a consistent basis then suddenly you become an attractive team but you’re right, you’re always fighting s battle to keep top players who will move for higher wage.

Hoe long can you work smarter than your rivals for? Saints did it for s while, got picked apart and then stopped being able to bring those new players in and have drifted down. I think relegation over 2/3 years for anyone outside the ‘big 6’ and Newcastle has to be real with the way players and managers get snapped up by those above. As leciester have shown easy to go from 5th, 5th, 8th to 18th in 4 seasons.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

100%. I guess it’s like West Ham, newcatsle, Leicester, villa have done. Try and break into that top 6 to secure a European place but to do that you generally need 1 or 2 of the traditional top clubs to have an off season. I’m not sure of the stats but I think it’s prob been a while since the ‘big 6’ ended up 1-6 so there is generwlly a spot up for grabs.

Once you’ve got that too 6 spot you’re going to subject to losing your players so it’s how good your forward planning is and brightons is pretty good to be fair to them.

I think every clubs outside those 6 (maybe 7 with newcatsle now) has to be trying to get some sort of European football or win a cup. If you can do that then fans will be thrilled. If you can keep doing that on a consistent basis then suddenly you become an attractive team but you’re right, you’re always fighting s battle to keep top players who will move for higher wage.

Hoe long can you work smarter than your rivals for? Saints did it for s while, got picked apart and then stopped being able to bring those new players in and have drifted down. I think relegation over 2/3 years for anyone outside the ‘big 6’ and Newcastle has to be real with the way players and managers get snapped up by those above. As leciester have shown easy to go from 5th, 5th, 8th to 18th in 4 seasons.

it's very hard for anyone now.

newcastle have already imo broken ffp as their budget is 180mil and they spent thst on players alone recently.

Brighton is 175mil and they can only pay modest wages so its grossly unfair in one way and protective in another.

Chelsea, Everton and City should be absolutely hammered imo

 

[johnsonsbaby]

There's talk of Bellingham needing a knee operation. Will it affect his move to Real? Somebody published a table of games/minutes played at top level for footballers under the age of 20. Bellingham tops the table with 191 games, 13,787 minutes. For context ...
Ronaldo 107 games, 6,380 minutes.
Messi 68 games, 3833 minutes.
Salah 44 games, 3,087 minutes and
Beckham 5 games, 285 minutes.

It's being suggested that Dortmund have been overplaying him hence the wear and tear on the knee. Shame if it hampers his development.

 

[Milk..]

There's talk of Bellingham needing a knee operation. Will it affect his move to Real? Somebody published a table of games/minutes played at top level for footballers under the age of 20. Bellingham tops the table with 191 games, 13,787 minutes. For context ...
Ronaldo 107 games, 6,380 minutes.
Messi 68 games, 3833 minutes.
Salah 44 games, 3,087 minutes and
Beckham 5 games, 285 minutes.

It's being suggested that Dortmund have been overplaying him hence the wear and tear on the knee. Shame if it hampers his development.

Teenagers are always a massive risk, it's why at figures like £140mil or £250kpw salaries they're not worth it even if better than some of their older peers.

You don't know their injury proneness yet, and there's a chance they go full Michael Owen at any moment.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Teenagers are always a massive risk, it's why at figures like £140mil or £250kpw salaries they're not worth it even if better than some of their older peers.

You don't know their injury proneness yet, and there's a chance they go full Michael Owen at any moment.

I'm not sure whether your muscles, tendons and bones have finished growing at age 19. It's usual to manage the playing time of teenagers to prevent burnout and excessive strain on their bodies. Some players may seem indestructible but the damage done by overplaying them could result in a curtailed career which would be sad in Bellingham's case.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

a better example might be wayne rooney or indeed steven gerrard

I honestly think gerrard was done for by the age of 30. he was all action all in and had loads of growing injuries as a younger player. He couldn't run any more for 3 or even 4 years from 2010/11 and still played on.

Rooney debuted for everton at 16/17 in 2002 and played up to say 2015 before utd eased him out cos his legs were completely gone he wound up jogging about deeper pretending to be a playmaker. he was well done at 30.


I'd contend we mismanaged gerrard more than we mismanaged owen.

Owen pulled a hamstring sprinting and pulled it so badly he ripped the tendon on the bone. could be over playing but he should have been feeling strain before it.

Gerrard on the other hand could cramp up on airplanes on the way to games and we'd be playing him through it.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Just looked up those two. Rooney 146 games, 10,417 minutes. Gerrard 43 games, 2,667 minutes. Can't find Michael Owen.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Just looked up those two. Rooney 146 games, 10,417 minutes. Gerrard 43 games, 2,667 minutes. Can't find Michael Owen.

Gerrard was still growing though. he took a growth spurt quite late so everyone is different I expect.

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur are both interested in signing Leeds United midfielder Tyler Adams this summer.

Liverpool ‘have opened talks’ for the signing of Bruno Guimarães from Newcastle United, according to reports from Brazil.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Gerrard was still growing though. he took a growth spurt quite late so everyone is different I expect.

Mustn't discount genetics either. Look how badly Rooney has aged and then look at his Dad, no disrespect intended, and you can see genetics has a role in there too.

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur are both interested in signing Leeds United midfielder Tyler Adams this summer.

Liverpool ‘have opened talks’ for the signing of Bruno Guimarães from Newcastle United, according to reports from Brazil.

None of that is true.

Bruno is irreplaceable in the current Newcastle squad, he's the one genuine class player they have. He's just got the chance to play CL with Newcastle so he's not going to jump ship to play EL and Newcastle have no financial pressure to sell anyone this summer.
In fact he's more likely to sign a big fat new contract to keep him away from Real or PSG.

Tyler Adams is ****, so that's not true either. That's just an agent trying to get his player away from a relegated club.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

None of that is true.

Bruno is irreplaceable in the current Newcastle squad, he's the one genuine class player they have. He's just got the chance to play CL with Newcastle so he's not going to jump ship to play EL and Newcastle have no financial pressure to sell anyone this summer.
In fact he's more likely to sign a big fat new contract to keep him away from Real or PSG.

Tyler Adams is ****, so that's not true either. That's just an agent trying to get his player away from a relegated club.

there is absolutely zero chance newcastle sell that guy.

absolutely zero

they are going to shovel money in this summer

 

[Zanjinho]

it's very hard for anyone now.

newcastle have already imo broken ffp as their budget is 180mil and they spent thst on players alone recently.

Brighton is 175mil and they can only pay modest wages so its grossly unfair in one way and protective in another.

Chelsea, Everton and City should be absolutely hammered imo

FFP is over a three year period though isn't it?

 

[Milk..]

Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur are both interested in signing Leeds United midfielder Tyler Adams this summer.

Liverpool ‘have opened talks’ for the signing of Bruno Guimarães from Newcastle United, according to reports from Brazil.

How much are alone are Tyler Adams corners worth?

Are they worth £10mil like Charlie Adams were?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

FFP is over a three year period though isn't it?

Well it is and it's not.

it's a rolling thing so you are always going to be close to the bone but now it's based on revenues so you can only spend so much on wages and transfers.

a club like Brighton can stand to make their entire revenue off two sales this summer. Newcastle can expect to spend double theirs with seeming impunity.

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

How much are alone are Tyler Adams corners worth?

His free kick alone worth £10m, (Sir Alex Ferguson's) in quote.

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

Liverpool are in “talks” with a Champions League club regarding a permanent deal to sign Fabio Carvalho, according to journalist Fabrizio Romano.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Mustn't discount genetics either. Look how badly Rooney has aged and then look at his Dad, no disrespect intended, and you can see genetics has a role in there too.

there is that. the man looks 60

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

Sterling moving from Chelsea to Rangers confirmed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65759073




















Dujon Sterling

 

[SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING]

Sterling moving from Chelsea to Rangers confirmed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65759073

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Dujon Sterling