Sorry are you suggesting the royals are harmless to society? Have you heard of Prince Andrew… Diana.. Megan markle..?
Not sure why some of you guys are watching football if all you’re doing is getting yourself wound up by every single decision that goes for liverpool, no matter how obvious and clear cut it is. Why the sudden obsession over Liverpool? It’s weird..
I'll be honest it's not so much an obsession with regards the actual team or the fan base. It's just Klopp has turned into a complete moaning, whiney, irritating **** and your owners were front and centre in delaying our takeover.
This for me. Kloppy has turned many many fans against Liverpool and the owners are twats. And I'd add they were also front & centre of attempting the breakaway super league. So not exactly endeared themselves to the rest of the nation & wider football community.
Yet klopp and the players were very much against the super league And everyone was against your owners because they’re an oil state sport washing and behead people…?
Just out of interest, do you think that Saudi Arabia is currently benefitting from the sports washing label or do you think that perhaps its just blown out of all proportion by those that get scared of some additional competition? I personally think they've been very clever with the way they've gone about everything. No ridiculous sponsorships, transfers, wages etc. Only thing we've done really is 2 training camps over there. They've not inflated transfer fee's they've not inflated agents fee's and they've not inflated wages.
Read again. I meant your owners were driving the breakaway. But if all you can come up with is oil state and beheadings, then there's no point conversing with you. You ckearly don't understand UK politics and who our government is in bed with. Or is it why your fans boo our own national anthem?
Was genuinely interested, I don't see us as being sports washed. Am I being Naive? Ignorant? Or is it just an easy slur to chuck about?
Messi is over there promoting it as a lovely place for tourists go… so I’m sure it is working to some regard as a lot of younger people will see messi saying it’s wonderful and be obvious to the human rights issues. What I would say is that the takeover has massively highlight an issue that people maybe weren’t aware of before, be it through lack of interest or attention it’s given. In terms of how your owners have gone about it, can’t fault them. Done it a sensible way so far. Wages and transfers are already hyper inflated anyway so that boats sailed a long time ago. My point was, for a club who have very very controversial owners, to use fsg as a reason to hate a club is a bit hypocritical imo
Like I said above, using a set of owners to hate a club is a bit rich, give the controversy surrounding yours?
But what have our owners (as in the people actually running the club) personally done to upset others, like your owners have.
Most owners will be controversial in one way or another. Most will have done something crooked or dodgey to gain their wealth. I genuinely have a dislike for American owners due to the fact they think they know sport best. They don't. With American ownership models its not about the sporting competition, the glory and the integrity, its about how much they can make from broadcasting and sponsorship and how to screw other clubs by being underhand to gain an advantage. I used to think Klopp was a breath of fresh air but for the last few years he's turned into a cry baby. He should stick to football and coaching and leave his sly remarks out of his press conferences.
In which case isn’t it a poor reason to dislike a club? As essentially you then will have to dislike every club including your own, no matter who you support?
Had this discussion on our board last week. Was stupid of him to do and should get punished for it. Was differing views on how his behaviour would affect kids though. Don’t think gonna see coaches and kids do it just cos a football manager did. That’s not how behaviour is learned. It’s learned from your closest peers/family/friends and how you’re brought up imo. So although he was stupid for doing it, it’s a lazy arguement to say it is gonna make kids think it’s ok.
As we've said, it's the behaviour of both your owners and Klopp that makes others dislike Liverpool at the moment.
So you are saying that kids don't learn from their idols and that is just being a lazy argument? Yet you also throw in the oil state and beheadings (which most kids don't even see or understand) and yet think that isn't lazy of you?
They make most of their money from fossil fuels. Which obviously has a massive impact on climate change. I’m sure they’ve also probably profiteered from the current oil price stuff which is hitting global prices although only guessing. The chairman is the ruler of Saudi who have approved numerous executions.. horrible lgbt rights & women’s rights. Take football out of it, surely you have to condone those actions?
