Our managers have a remit to achieve top four first and foremost, there is no pressure to win any silverware so there is no wonder they don`t take cups seriously. When Mourinho got close to a trophy, he was sacked to avoid paying him a bonus, so you can see where the owners priorities are.
i like European footy…it’s a different game and I enjoy being part of it. I don’t like entering completions just because though…I like us to try and win them and I don’t think we do due to arrogance or just being ****…I’m not sure. However unlike Roma and West Ham this season…we adopt put our eggs into that basket and our bit part players can never get us to the business end of a third grade tournament. So we can’t manage it right…so we don’t have the same energy as clubs who want to win the trophy…we don’t take our fans on a great journey in Europe enough. So maybe next season we give it a miss to save us all the frustration and just try to work on our domestic football because that’s turned to **** as well and we fans can see it getting worse before it gets better.
It depends who “this lot” involves. If we’re hiring a new manager to yet again work with the majority of these players for next season then we might as well pack up now. If the club is finally going to listen to its fans and bin a large number of deadwood then the promotion of youth alongside new signings could do with the extra competition to get more experience together. We could be on the verge of losing Mundle as it is, if we yet again don’t provide a route to the first team next season then there’s the possibility of even more following in the footsteps of Madueke and Edwards.
Isn't the problem actually moving on players? The clubs above don't want them and those below can't afford the wages. Once again Spurs position on the edge of the top is the problem.
Cancel more contracts like Aurier and Doherty. A lot of the deadwood have deals expiring in a year or two. We need to be more threatening too, banish players to the reserves (now ideally) and tell them under no circumstance will they be registered for the first team next season. That might just make a few players and agents rethink a move and be more open to reducing financial expectations. Problem for us is that there’s already rumours Dier has signed/ will sign a new deal. If I were still a betting man I’d put money on Sessegnon being offered one as well.
The board look at players as financial assets and are therefore keen (as they see it) to get them on contracts to protect their investment. This as we know backfires when you end up with an Ndombele on huge wages and going nowhere except on loan to protect his own financial interests. Only stability of management will overcome this situation and that will take time to work through. We need to get off of this celebrity management kick and prioritise stability above all. All easier said than done of course. We didn't see Pochettino coming and we probably won't see the next one coming either but the board could have behaved differently and Poch might still be here. Will they learn from that situation?
I hope we learn because otherwise our spiral will just continue. A new Pochettino would be great, because the original was a ruthless bastard when he first came in. I think about 5 or 6 senior players were more or less expelled from the XI within his first 2 or 3 months at the club and they’d left by the time the following season started along with some others. That’s practically exactly what we need from our new manager.
I don't think you are right. Firstly Liverpool have been PL #2 on revenue at least once and their average finish under Klopp is very close to their average revenue ranking. Cups are harder to analyse because they depend so much on the draw. In the knockout stages with Liverpool, Klopp has generally beaten teams with lower revenue (winning 8 out of 9 ties) but has lost 4 out of 7 matches against teams with higher revenue. That doesn't look in the least bit unusual to me.
But back then they were easier to sell because we were not signing players with high fees and wages. As far as I can see the club have done a decent job of minimising the financial consequences of poor transfer decisions.
Presumably you are putting City as #1 in revenue (at least in spend) as guadiola is par for the course. United are definitely higher than Liverpool. Arguably Chelsea going by the City definition also are higher than Liverpool. I make Pool 4th for most of that so by definition finishing way above par for the course
He should draw the line at Guns & Roses Spandex, name on his shoes - haven’t you had enough embarrassment already?
They were also easier to sell because a decent portion were good players and many were proven in the Premier League. Some just didn’t fit Pochettino’s system and others caused one or two issues amongst the youth, whom Pochettino sided with. You may call it a decent job of minimising the consequences of poor transfers, I’d say it’s suffering with the consequences of poor transfers as well as decision making with existing players.
As I have said before, this is an issue with the PL and not any particular club. The only way that 'wage poisoning' can be broken is if the players themselves are collectively humble in their wages mindset.
I am using the Deloitte money league rankings. Liverpool are number 3.5 on that on average over the Klopp years (but have been getting gradually higher and are above Man U currently). Including this year their average finishing position under Klopp is 3.7.
What years in the Klopp era have the Poool been #2 ?? "Cups are harder to analyse because they depend so much on the draw. In the knockout stages with Liverpool, Klopp has generally beaten teams with lower revenue (winning 8 out of 9 ties) but has lost 4 out of 7 matches against teams with higher revenue. That doesn't look in the least bit unusual to me." There comes a point at which the compounding of luck (probabilities) gives a value so low that tis either a "black swan" event, or there is a systematic cause for what is happening. I contend that we are observing the latter, and not the former.
So before the time the Poool become #2 (ostensibly so by incremental annual performance) , 2 of the 3 PL/CL performances I stated, had already occurred.
That's true but I think that is equally likely to be a consequence of a black swan event in the transfer market (where each of Mane, Salah, Van Dyck, Robertson and Allison made big differences) as anything to do with Klopp's coaching.
In that case where does City rank then if you want to use the same metric. Surely that makes Pep a god (i can't imagine City are that high)
