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  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Whether it happens all the time is irrelevant and who is saying they'll let it affect their preparations?
     
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    It's not irrelevant it's entirely the point, that situations like this are hugely common in the Prem, and managers always beat change into their thinking.

    It's not more difficult to know what to expect now cos there's more variation in the Sahara than in Allardyce's tactics.
     
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    That doesn’t automatically make it more difficult to prepare. Plus you do.
     
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    No it's not it's completely irrelevant to what you're arguing against.

    I'm saying it's more difficult to prepare for games after a managerial change....nothing else.

    Whether it happens all the time is completely irrelevant.... I'm not saying managers don't have to deal with managerial changes am I?
     
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    So then you don't need to alter preparations based on the opposition?

    Like I said I'm going to disagree ...
     
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    The opposition hasn’t changed, it’s still Leeds……when we eventually actually get to them.
     
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    How do you know what selections tactics and data to analyse? It's largely unknown and less predictable .
     
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    And I'm saying no it's not. Especially when a team have just brought in a predictable old carthorse like Allardyce.
     
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    So you just analyse what you have, bring in your own knowledge of how Allardyce teams play and, as the better team, impose your tactics on the game and let them worry about you.

    Sorted. And still time for a drink before training.

    <cheers>
     
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    Because as I’ve already said they play a game before us
     
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    I didn't ask you how you'd deal with the change, but you've conceded there won't be as much information available and that makes it more difficult to prepare for.
     
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    You'd have 1 weeks knowledge on player selections, subs and styles of play ... it's not the same as reviewing months of selections etc....

    Essentially you have less information.

    Howe isn't Steve Bruce...
     
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    Will you? I suspect you’d have more to work on. Fat Sham won’t keep changing tactics. This should be simpler
     
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    Assuming isn't preparing Mr Peterson
     
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    Arsenal board here i come

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    You’re the one making assumptions.

    Enjoy the Arsenal board
     
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    I never assume I look at all possibilities.. you know this mate.
     
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    Got you!
    You’ve assumed I know this

    <party>
     
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    No, it doesn’t. You prepare as I’ve indicated above. Perhaps you might not have the drink but you dictate the tactics as the better team.

    You’re just assuming it will be more difficult to prepare but why should it. The better teams dictate how a game plays out not the poorer teams. The poorer teams need to rely on effort, harrying, and knocking the better team out of their stride.

    Have a guess, how do you think Leeds are going to play? Pretty much as I’ve described above as they’re not going to try and out play us. See, not more difficult at all.
     
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  20. Charlie Dogscock

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    Oh this comment is good.
     
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