Match Day Thread Middlesbrough v Hull City with Poll!!

[highpeak tiger]

Well he's a lot better than Ebiowei, so we can save ourselves a loan spot & fee and develop one of our own for a change.

 

[Shark Sports]

He wasn't anywhere near motm or an 8. But we do it all the time with young players..... Just build the up way to much way to quick. Kids got potential and it's great to see him get game time. But I doubt very much he'll be a regular starter or on the bench weekly when we have a fully fit squad next season. I wouldn't be shocked to see him go out on loan either.

I swear you've been going way OTT recently. The lad will be involved next season and after a few years in the lower leagues, a season being in and around the first team will be great for him. He's played 39 times for Oldham so he's not a kid with no experience

 

[Shark Sports]

If he could go out on loan to an ipswich,derby, peterbrough, a team challenging at the top end of l1 next season

I think it'd be beneficial

He wouldn't get a game for them. Promotion is the be-all and end-all for those sides, they want proven players and won't waste time developing kids for other clubs.

He'd be going Shelbourne if anything

 

[Howdentiger2]

I swear you've been going way OTT recently. The lad will be involved next season and after a few years in the lower leagues, a season being in and around the first team will be great for him. He's played 39 times for Oldham so he's not a kid with no experience

What was OTT about what I said?

If he's only going to get serious game time with us then as I said, he should stay. But if it's only 5/10mins here and there then I think a 6month loan would be better.... Failing to see what OTT about it ?

 

[Gone For A Walk]

I swear you've been going way OTT recently. The lad will be involved next season and after a few years in the lower leagues, a season being in and around the first team will be great for him. He's played 39 times for Oldham so he's not a kid with no experience

Yep, I was surprised to see he'd played that many games already, mainly in L2. Anyone know why they then loaned him out to Radcliffe? On the face of it, seems bizarre. Maybe he wouldn't sign a new contract and was looking for a move away?

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

He's shown a few promising touches, appears to have a great attitude and has endeared himself to fans, commentators and presumably our management.

However let's not go overboard. - Yet.

He was pulled last night as it was clear he didn't know how to react to us falling behind. The phrase rabbit in headlights was used and I think that's a true reflection.

I hope he features in our next few games, but probably off the bench, late on, to build up experience.

Next season he needs to be a regular sub - certainly for the first few months. I don't think a loan is needed. He's proved he's capable at Championship level. I just think he needs easing in and, more importantly, looking after, as he develops.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

I don't think it's daft, he'd be my MotM as well.

Just something else we see quite differently
How long do I stay on your naughty step?

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

He wasn't anywhere near motm or an 8. But we do it all the time with young players..... Just build the up way to much way to quick. Kids got potential and it's great to see him get game time. But I doubt very much he'll be a regular starter or on the bench weekly when we have a fully fit squad next season. I wouldn't be shocked to see him go out on loan either.

I’d be surprised if he didn’t go out on loan.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Just something else we see quite differently
How long do I stay on your naughty step?

I don't have a naughty step.

 

[Shark Sports]

What was OTT about what I said?

If he's only going to get serious game time with us then as I said, he should stay. But if it's only 5/10mins here and there then I think a 6month loan would be better.... Failing to see what OTT about it ?

Because he's starting games with us and looking decent. I don't understand why there should be any talk of him being dropped and then loaned out. It's just nonsense.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

I don't have a naughty step.

Well that's another thing we can disagree on! #thingscomein3's

 

[Howdentiger2]

Because he's starting games with us and looking decent. I don't understand why there should be any talk of him being dropped and then loaned out. It's just nonsense.

Is he starting due to him forcing his way in or is he starting due to injuries and attitude of others? He's done well, but look at the players Boro had in his position last night....would you start him over any of them?

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

Macca played on the right first half but on the left second , got caught there on his own , first half he didn’t . Was he covering for Greaves who to be honest I can hardly recall in the game. It’s not criticising him it’s just what I saw .

You are right, Greaves and Macca were too far apart when the ball was kicked, so Greaves couldn't cover. McLoughlin then got too close to Archer, and should have backed off slightly earlier, so he could guide him wider and keep himself between Archer and the goal.

 

[Sumatran_Tiger]

If he could go out on loan to an ipswich,derby, peterbrough, a team challenging at the top end of l1 next season

I think it'd be beneficial

I doubt Ipswich will be in L1 next season.

 

[eimaj]

Baz's ratings - 5's for Pelkas and Elder (and all the subs), 6's for everyone else, other than Slater and Traore with 7 and Vaughan with 8.

Vaughan has promise, but as with most youngsters, he needs to bulk up as he was bullied off the ball a fair bit. Was he our best player last night? I don't think so.

 

[bradymk2]

He wouldn't get a game for them. Promotion is the be-all and end-all for those sides, they want proven players and won't waste time developing kids for other clubs.

He'd be going Shelbourne if anything

of course he could
and those 3 clubs were an example

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Not sure about that. I agree he wasn’t motm or an 8 but he definitely looks first team standard and not just a promising kid who might play bit parts here and there off the bench.

The Oldham Messi

It he's going to continue to get decent game time then a loan is ridiculous, but if he's not going to get more then 5/10mins here and there then he's not going to progress. He's got the potential that's obvious. But he can't stand still. He needs first team games to continue progressing.

5/10 minutes!! 9our subs are always 64-67 minutes
It’s the law
FACT

 

[Baldrick's Cunning Plan]

Sorry Pelkas fans but he’s not only championship class he’s not even league one class

Pelkas is a flash in the pan who likes to hit the deck too often. I don't understand why a few here rate him at all. Too much dead wood to clear out before a top 6 spot can be taken seriously including the kid from Palace who is greatly overrated although he's young and could turn into a decent player in the future.

 

[Shark Sports]

Is he starting due to him forcing his way in our is he starting due to injuries and attitude of others? He's done well, but look at the players Boro had in his position last night....would you start him over any of them?

But we don't have that calibre of attackers and we won't next season either. While our strikers are out, all our wingers and attacking midfielders are available and he's looking good. He's certainly as good as any wide option we have at the club

 

[bradymk2]

But we don't have that calibre of attackers and we won't next season either. While our strikers are out, all our wingers and attacking midfielders are available and he's looking good. He's certainly as good as any wide option we have at the club

I swear you've been going way OTT recently.