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[Citizen Kane.]

Bayern are allegedly considering replacing Nagelsmann with Tuchel.
They've been struggling badly this season and have dropped all the way to 2nd.

@BrunelGunner said over on the other thread that he could see this coming a mile off. If so, that is impressively astute from him. Granted, they aren't enjoying their traditional sleepwalk to the Bundesliga title, but I'd have thought the CL - which they've only won once in a decade iirc - should surely be the priority? And this season, Nagelsmann has (so far) produced not just the best record of the current competition, but one of the best in the competition's entire history. 8 wins out of 8, 7 clean sheets (weirdly Plezn so far the only team to score agains them) and 21 goals scored. Seems mad to sack him now.

 

[Spurlock]

Come to us Nagelsmann and destroy what little confidence you may have left

you know you want to

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

@BrunelGunner said over on the other thread that he could see this coming a mile off. If so, that is impressively astuteness from him. Granted, they aren't enjoying their traditional sleepwalk to the Bundesliga title, but I'd have thought the CL - which they've only won once in a decade iirc - should surely be the priority? And this season, Nagelsmann has (so far) produced not just the best record of the current competition, but one of the best in the competition's entire history. 8 wins out of 8, 7 clean sheets (weirdly Plezn so far the only team to score agains them) and 21 goals scored. Seems mad to sack him now.

Beat PSG twice without conceding a goal, too. Still in the domestic cup.
A point behind Dortmund, but with 21 better goal difference.

They made some good signings in the summer.
Mazraoui, Gravenberch, Mane, de Ligt and Tel, plus Sommer and Cancelo in January.
They failed to replace Lewandowski, though. A Stoke reject just doesn't cut it, for me.

 

[Dier Hard]

They failed to replace Lewandowski, though.

Completely understandable too. Phenomenal striker.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Completely understandable too. Phenomenal striker.

They didn't even try though, as far as I can see. Bizarre.

 

[Spurlock]

Completely understandable too. Phenomenal striker.

like us with Kane…we can’t replace him

you can’t replace a world class attacker unless you buy Mbappe or Haaland and that is not happening

 

[Citizen Kane.]

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This tweet caused me an alarming mix of emotions.

First I laughed that a club as big as Bayern thinks we have the foggiest clue what we're doing. As if we have some sort of cohesive plan we'd actually follow up on promptly

Then I panicked that we were genuinely stupid enough to be considering Tuchel

Then I relaxed because now Bayern have him and his collection of mismatching hats

Then I panicked again because our Plan B is probably Alan Pardew

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

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This tweet caused me an alarming mix of emotions.

First I laughed that a club as big as Bayern thinks we have the foggiest clue what we're doing. As if we have some sort of cohesive plan we'd actually follow up on promptly

Then I panicked that we were genuinely stupid enough to be considering Tuchel

Then I relaxed because now Bayern have him and his collection of mismatching hats

Then I panicked again because our Plan B is probably Alan Pardew

That's ok, as our interest will cause PSG to sack Galtier and bring in the Pardster.

 

[Dier Hard]

They didn't even try though, as far as I can see. Bizarre.

Probably waiting for Kane

 

[Dier Hard]

like us with Kane…we can’t replace him

you can’t replace a world class attacker unless you buy Mbappe or Haaland and that is not happening

Said similar mate, I don’t think I’ve ever feared a player’s loss as much as I do Kane’s.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Probably waiting for Kane

Pushing that Sane, Mane, Kane **** too far.

 

[The RDBD]

Come to us Nagelsmann and destroy what little confidence you may have left

you know you want to

If only to give Pep the false messiah the
Citeh spanking he has been denied by
Munich this season in the CL,

 

[Spurlock]

I’ve had a little think about it and I’m saying we go in balls deep for Nagelsmann

From what I’m reading he’s quite flexible with his tactics and tbh our squad with the type of characters it has within it

we seem like a good fit

Levy please just do your ****ing job for once

 

[The RDBD]

I’ve had a little think about it and I’m saying we go in balls deep for Nagelsmann

From what I’m reading he’s quite flexible with his tactics and tbh our squad with the type of characters it has within it

we seem like a good fit

Levy please just do your ****ing job for once

The problem is that Munich have superior squads.
I am not talking "galacticos" , but what I consider
expected core competence from a pro (passing
accurately fast and forward, keeping the ball in the
tussle etc) .

When you come to a club where you cannot even
assume that baseline, hmm.

At the worst I guess we would get attacking Spurs teams
from him (only Pep was able to stifle that in the Munich
machine - perhaps that is why he is deemed by some to
be a football messiah ) .

 

[BobbyD]

Lennypops showed that to be 90% sure that the difference between a 49% win ratio and a 53% win ratio is not down to chance you need about 3000 matches!
I've not done the sums but I don't think our poorer performance over the last 4 years is much different to that.
If you did a test on the null hypothesis that Arsenal and Spurs had exactly the same performance this season you wouldn't get close to being able to reject it on the basis of the actual results.

you always liked to tell me it was cycles of 5 years. Well i can tell you it's a downward cycle in your 5 year spiral

 

[The Changing Man]

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This 53 trophies stat has got a lot of traction this week and has been shared via various people on twitter, mainly by the usual anti spurs brigade and yes as a headline it looks great, but of those 53 how many have been at clubs that where money is no object, or in less competitive environments than the ones that we play in.

I haven't done any actual research into this but from memory, Sherwood and Mason were caretakers and have won nothing elsewhere (as managers), Jose has won trophies at Porto, Chelsea Inter, Real, Man U and Roma, Conte at Juventus, Chelsea and Inter, Pochettino at PSG, Nuno may have won the championship, and Harry an FA cup at Portsmouth. So out of the 53, the the trophies won by Jose and Conte at Inter, Jose, ECL at Porto and conference league win at Roma and Harrys FA cup are of note, all the rest are at clubs where that level of success is paid for and expected, or in Portugal/ championship.

 

[PowerSpurs]

you always liked to tell me it was cycles of 5 years. Well i can tell you it's a downward cycle in your 5 year spiral

Having reread Lennypops analysis I now understand that 5 years is too short to be very meaningful.

 

[The RDBD]

Having reread Lennypops analysis I now understand that 5 years is too short to be very meaningful.

6 years seems to hold as a rough time period,
if you set falling out of persistent PL top 4 finishes
as the "low watermark" . You get :

Them lot : 6 years min (2016-17 to this season)
Man Utd : 9 years min (2013-15 to this season)
The Poool : 6 years (2009-10 to 2016-17)

 

[BobbyD]

i say give ryan mason the 2000 games to see if he's roughly the messiah or not

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

The Pathetic are claiming that Conte and Levy's falling out began last January, when Levy wouldn't sanction a move for Adama Traore

Errrm, it's a little hard to side with Conte on that one...