Coronavirus

[Chief]

Something lol

that’s good evidence

that something was flu

If it was/is flu, it was a particularly nasty strain.

FWIW, I've always accepted its existence (killed a couple of people I know, one being HIAG, and hospitalised another) but personally I've never once swayed from my stance that it was nothing to fear unless there was an additional or underlying issue (including being a fat unhealthy ****) and that only those who were at genuine risk should lock down/wear masks/be give furlough etc.
They had it completely the wrong way round, and to make us do it by claiming we were saving others is ****ing scandalous.

Never swayed from that. Had some humdinger arguments about it on here, again with one who is now dead (can see why he was concerned tbf, given his own situation).

Was always genuinely baffled by people's fear and paranoia.

Like they allowed themselves to be brainwashed and led by all the bollocks which was, to me, clearly all a ****ing sham driven by media outlets and politicians.


This virus was taken advantage of by government's across the world to get a tight grip on our behaviour and **** us all over largely, and to see people lap it up was utterly bizarre.

Glad I'm comfortable in my own head and body as I got through the whole shebang barely breaking sweat.

I do regret having the jabs, but I only did it to travel. It's caused no harm though, touch wood!

 

[brb]

I always remember being really ill before covid, I'd never been so poorly in my whole life, which always led me to believe whatever it was, it didn't come out of China, or certainly not at the time that was originally claimed OR what I had was something entirely different.

My main concern with people not working during covid, was the knock on effect of medical supplies, it was that what if scenario.Houston we could have a problem.

I had all my jabs including all the boosters, but I've never really thought about them, much beyond that, so can't say what I believe, I know what I see now as the consequences of locking people down so long, so I hear people's arguments against it.

So I'm probably never going to form the role of final judge and jury on it, other than I will take some convincing it ever came out of Wuhan, and my distrust of the American government don't help that thought process but that's just my own subjective opinion.

Have I had side effects after the jabs, I can't be sure, I know after my last op, my oxygen levels were low is that just me getting old, or is it as a consequnce of something, well I quite simply don't know, despite them wrongly trying to claim I had been smoking, when I hadn't!

 

[aberdude]

If it was/is flu, it was a particularly nasty strain.

FWIW, I've always accepted its existence (killed a couple of people I know, one being HIAG, and hospitalised another) but personally I've never once swayed from my stance that it was nothing to fear unless there was an additional or underlying issue (including being a fat unhealthy ****) and that only those who were at genuine risk should lock down/wear masks/be give furlough etc.
They had it completely the wrong way round, and to make us do it by claiming we were saving others is ****ing scandalous.

Never swayed from that. Had some humdinger arguments about it on here, again with one who is now dead (can see why he was concerned tbf, given his own situation).

Was always genuinely baffled by people's fear and paranoia.

Like they allowed themselves to be brainwashed and led by all the bollocks which was, to me, clearly all a ****ing sham driven by media outlets and politicians.


This virus was taken advantage of by government's across the world to get a tight grip on our behaviour and **** us all over largely, and to see people lap it up was utterly bizarre.

Glad I'm comfortable in my own head and body as I got through the whole shebang barely breaking sweat.

I do regret having the jabs, but I only did it to travel. It's caused no harm though, touch wood!

your intuition has helped you navigate through the lies that came our way

‘tiz a shame lots took jab based on not being able to travel freely without it

many also had it just to see relatives in care homes and other hospices

shame on our journalists our healthcare system and shame on our politicians for failing to question the integrity of big pharmaceutical companies reasoning for such over play and frenzied fear whilst still not learning from previous mistakes

now listen closely history repeating

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[aberdude]

not sure what’s right wing about being against a rushed out drug for a illness that didn’t stack up with the science/propaganda

can anyone explain bet you cant

with peej not being able to give a reason why matt le tiss is far right for his views on Covid can I ask them that liked the post for the reason why they liked it

 

[Treble]

your intuition has helped you navigate through the lies that came our way

‘tiz a shame lots took jab based on not being able to travel freely without it

many also had it just to see relatives in care homes and other hospices

shame on our journalists our healthcare system and shame on our politicians for failing to question the integrity of big pharmaceutical companies reasoning for such over play and frenzied fear whilst still not learning from previous mistakes

now listen closely history repeating

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Actually, in the video, I see a system that has called out when there has been an overreaction. It shows if the same had happened with Covid, organisations and those leading them - like the Chairman of Health Subcomitte at the Council of Europe who they showed in that video, would be calling them out again.

Btw a big difference between pulling in thousands of vaccine doses for 350 dead due to swine flu and trying to develop a vaccine for tens of thousands dead due to Covid.

If anything, the lack of PPE and problems around care homes show that if anything we were ill-prepared. The pharma companies only started the vaccine development after the pandemic had started, so the timeline doesn't fit them creating the so-called panic or so-called overreaction.

 

[Peej]

Actually, in the video, I see a system that has called out when there has been an overreaction. It shows if the same had happened with Covid, organisations and those leading them - like the Chairman of Health Subcomitte at the Council of Europe who they showed in that video, would be calling them out again.

Btw a big difference between pulling in thousands of vaccine doses for 350 dead due to swine flu and trying to develop a vaccine for tens of thousands dead due to Covid.

If anything, the lack of PPE and problems around care homes show that if anything we were ill-prepared. The pharma companies only started the vaccine development after the pandemic had started, so the timeline doesn't fit them creating the so-called panic or so-called overreaction.

nah mate, the crazies think this was all pre planned. So the vaccine can’t have been rushed through…..
So if planned and virus and vaccine(population control DNA altering jab) were trialled? 5g being used to target the ones they wanted dead after they were jabbed. Bridgen believes that it was all a USA led hit on the world, that he knows prosecution is coming.

One issue is, that global population is still on the rise, 6-8billion growth since the inception of the bill and Melinda gates foundation(you know, the population control guy)

Malhotra, Bridgen and co will have you believe it’s all just a scamdemic.

 

[aberdude]

Actually, in the video, I see a system that has called out when there has been an overreaction. It shows if the same had happened with Covid, organisations and those leading them - like the Chairman of Health Subcomitte at the Council of Europe who they showed in that video, would be calling them out again.

Btw a big difference between pulling in thousands of vaccine doses for 350 dead due to swine flu and trying to develop a vaccine for tens of thousands dead due to Covid.

If anything, the lack of PPE and problems around care homes show that if anything we were ill-prepared. The pharma companies only started the vaccine development after the pandemic had started, so the timeline doesn't fit them creating the so-called panic or so-called overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/10/tamiflu-saga-drug-trials-big-pharma

 

[aberdude]

nah mate, the crazies think this was all pre planned. So the vaccine can’t have been rushed through…..
So if planned and virus and vaccine(population control DNA altering jab) were trialled? 5g being used to target the ones they wanted dead after they were jabbed. Bridgen believes that it was all a USA led hit on the world, that he knows prosecution is coming.

One issue is, that global population is still on the rise, 6-8billion growth since the inception of the bill and Melinda gates foundation(you know, the population control guy)

Malhotra, Bridgen and co will have you believe it’s all just a scamdemic.

birth rates plummeting the population guy is ahead of your curve again peej

 

[aberdude]

By the way the crazies locked themselves away covered faces with face nappies and expected everyone injected with a gene therapy never used as a vaccine before……you are now at risk from potentially devastating side effects

the clever people didn’t listen to boris and co and life was normal meeting friends and family who also didn’t listen to the lies and misinformation from official news outlets………we are now free from the fear of vaccine side effects

but you can invert the truth if it’s suits your delusions peej, your opinion has little effect on my health

 

[Treble]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/10/tamiflu-saga-drug-trials-big-pharma

I don't doubt that big pharma companies aren't involved in trying to scam the system at times. You can trace it back to examples such as the thalidomide and more recently the opioid scandal shpwn through the excellent drama Dopesick. If the evidence comes out through organisations like the Cochrane Collaboration about the Covid vaccine then fair enough, but it's not there at the moment and we have to be careful we don't tar everyone with the same brush due to some dodgy practises.

Btw when the fck did the Guardian go behind a paywall?! They used top ask for donations but were one of the few who still kept access free. Shame that, good paper.

 

[aberdude]

I don't doubt that big pharma companies aren't involved in trying to scam the system at times. You can trace it back to examples such as the thalidomide and more recently the opioid scandal shpwn through the excellent drama Dopesick. If the evidence comes out through organisations like the Cochrane Collaboration about the Covid vaccine then fair enough, but it's not there at the moment and we have to be careful we don't tar everyone with the same brush due to some dodgy practises.

Btw when the fck did the Guardian go behind a paywall?! They used top ask for donations but were one of the few who still kept access free. Shame that, good paper.

The guardian or whoever will always drop the truth partly because they can refer back to it but it will never be front page news in any media source that is controlled by Reuters that’s for sure

Sadly from years of experience they just know most stuff like that goes on deaf ears and the story about the bafta awards being more a talking point and more palatable to the minions(protective bubble)


Ps what’s your take on the swine flu story I posted

 

[Peej]

I don't doubt that big pharma companies aren't involved in trying to scam the system at times. You can trace it back to examples such as the thalidomide and more recently the opioid scandal shpwn through the excellent drama Dopesick. If the evidence comes out through organisations like the Cochrane Collaboration about the Covid vaccine then fair enough, but it's not there at the moment and we have to be careful we don't tar everyone with the same brush due to some dodgy practises.

Btw when the fck did the Guardian go behind a paywall?! They used top ask for donations but were one of the few who still kept access free. Shame that, good paper.

Guardian isn’t a right wing supporting rag. So is better in so many ways. The morons get their news from Murdoch

 

[brb]

If anything, the lack of PPE and problems around care homes show that if anything we were ill-prepared. The pharma companies only started the vaccine development after the pandemic had started, so the timeline doesn't fit them creating the so-called panic or so-called overreaction.

Just in regards to this bit ^

If I was having an open discussion over PPE, putting aside masks and gloves which I can understand the importance of, what importance does a plastic apron hold or bin bag in the case of the tories lol?

I get an apron in the food industry, I get even an apron in building space satellites where the compenents are delicate, I even get aprons in the surgery room or throughout the NHS to protect clothing from stains, I just don't get the general purpose of wearing an apron beyond that, and wonder what I am missing here.

I always thought the apron within nursing in the past was the actual washable uniform itself.

It's abit like during covid, where they told us to stop handling cash, but said it was ok to handle mail envelopes and parcels, alternatively with cash they could have directed people to self checkouts to use it, and card customers could of gone to service tills...but they didn't.

Just curious that's all, that we seem to fall inline and say yes we must have this, but why, where did we get this obsession for plastic aprons come from, let alone the damage to the environment?

 

[aberdude]

Guardian isn’t a right wing supporting rag. So is better in so many ways. The morons get their news from Murdoch

Your in a mess dude

are we right wing left wing make your fking mind up which box u wanna fit us in ffs

 

[aberdude]

I’m in the anti Covid vax wing if that helps you work it out peej

 

[Peej]

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May just tune in to see what he is bringing to the party. Sure it’s evidence that pre vaccine covid infection isn’t responsible for ‘deaths’

with no news on Prince Harry, a GB news day will be covering this unless it’s seen as woke.

 

[Chief]

Btw when the fck did the Guardian go behind a paywall?! They used top ask for donations but were one of the few who still kept access free. Shame that, good paper.

You don't have to pay, they're asking if you'll support them and suggesting amounts.

You can ignore it.

Whether it does come in, not sure.

 

[aberdude]

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May just tune in to see what he is bringing to the party. Sure it’s evidence that pre vaccine covid infection isn’t responsible for ‘deaths’

with no news on Prince Harry, a GB news day will be covering this unless it’s seen as woke.

Mad Eric is off again

 

[brb]

You don't have to pay, they're asking if you'll support them and suggesting amounts.

You can ignore it.

Whether it does come in, not sure.

This is correct ^

If you look a little closer at the paywall, it says something like 'I will do it later' or similar wording, just click that and the paywall is lifted. They've been doing this for a long while now.

 

[Treble]

The guardian or whoever will always drop the truth partly because they can refer back to it but it will never be front page news in any media source that is controlled by Reuters that’s for sure

Sadly from years of experience they just know most stuff like that goes on deaf ears and the story about the bafta awards being more a talking point and more palatable to the minions(protective bubble)


Ps what’s your take on the swine flu story I posted

I couldn't watch it all earlier so wanted to do that before replying.

Paul Flynn sums it up perfectly. The cart is before the horse. With the swine flu the pharma companies influences the WHO who then put out the advice. That was completely wrong. It should be the scientists and those like epidemiologists who decide on the scale of the threat and then the response should follow that (which MAY then involve medication from the pharmaceuticals as required).

I don't blame the governments of countries for ordering in those vaccines as they didn't know the process was back to front, so when the WHO were advising them about the pandemic, it was based on pharma advice. Now, I'm basing this all on that news report and assuming it's accurate.

The other problem with what happened with Spine Flu, is that you have a "crying wolf" situation bcos when a pandemic does happen for real then the governments think, we were told this last time and it turned out to be a damp squib.