Kelleher has been making noise about wanting to go to play. We also have pitaluga and davies coming up so as much as kelleher has done well hes also injury prone and could be a great sell. thiago's legs are gone mate. Carvalho seems totally in the cold with klopp. dunno why but its the type of thing that might just make sense. he looks the next minamino to me. jones is very injury prone as well so if theres cash available from someone it might make sense.
cahs flow doesn't workj that way though. yes for wages but not for the fee. If FSG don't allow borrowing then we have to fund from short term and the FFP amortisation doesn't really affect anything. We are burndened with about 35mil of repayments per year on anfield now. they won't lift a ****ing finger to remove that.
I don't agree with most of that HAS Kelleher really been making noises? Thiago has been one of our best players and has kept going through our bad patches this season. Carvalho is 19 mate c'mon like.
It's just rumblings. He's said he's going to have a look at things i nthe summer. He might want a loan but its more likley he will be sold. thaigo cannot get baout. we are not missing him right now and put in 2 yuong CMS and suddenly his 200k a week wages look a bit of an issue. The Carvalho stuff is a bit baffling TBH. he's getting absolutely no love form klopp at all, klopps saying all the same thing she said about minamino so in the end this could be another bought for value player klopp doesn't see the fit with and we will be here in 2 years wondering why not. Yes he's 20 and ellioot is younger and bajectic younger yet so there is the possibility its down to not having a chance to grab a slot. the others have open positions to stick their hand up for and have done so. I just have to wonder though, theres chances when you are 5 up at anfield to stick the lad on for nunez for exmaple. Theres a lot more benefit to klopp getting 20mins running in jota' legs right now.
I can't see us getting as rid of as many as you simply because Bobby , ,AOC and Keita are all off and to also replace Thiago , Carvalho and Matip is too many in one window though I reckon Carvalho may well go on loan next season.
There were rumours last year that Bellingham had a buy out clause of circa £80m, if so he is gettable for LFC
The issue with thiago, he can't run. The issue with fab, he can't run, The issue with Henderson, he can only run for 45 minutes. You can only carry one.
Can’t blame kelleher if he does want to go. Too good to be a number 2 - he’s be first choice in about 75% of prem teams. Isn’t going to displace alisson though. As much as would love to keep him, he prob needs and wants to go be a first choice keeper. If we can get a decent amount - maybe a nice sell in % of even buy back clause.
that's it. add in the fact he's injured a few times add in the fact we have two that are actually better than him at the same age in Harvey Davies and Marco pitaluga Well..... it only makes sense if the deal is right.
yeah they will. but in the end cash flow and what terms we can get for installments or payments up front will decide what we get. and top 4 will inevitably as well.
Imo, if we were to buy Bellingham, Hendo still gets into the starting 11 every other game. The drop off in performance if he has to play more regularly is huge. Klopp used to rotate his midfield more than anywhere else and hasn’t been able to do so this year and Hendo hs probably felt it most. Mount is a great presser of the ball and has an eye for goal. When was the last time that we had a goal scoring midfielder? Stevie G I guess. we may as well go all out and buy Rice. It’s not my money so I’ll call for that now. Bajectic should be eased into the first eleven, not thrown in but a massive potential. Thiago is on the bench and brought on to move the ball more quickly when faced with a tight defence - hasn’t our good form coincided with his injury? Fab has been strangely off the pace this season but almost back to his best vs Utd. Still a bit slow in the tackle but if his form improves, he’s still in the first 11 for me. Elliott is a weird one. He frustratingly gave the ball away a few times in silly the first half vs Utd and it p*asked me off. Second half he was very good and he does press, although I’m not convinced that if we buy new midfielders, he’ll play there that often. Milner and Ox are effectively gone. 2 in. Or 3 and lose one of the above. plus one CB. Gomez is toast.
When thinking about the midfield, easiest thing for me to do is compare it to a few seasons ago. Windy, fab & Henderson. It wasn't fantastic, it was functional. It functioned at a high level, but I doubt anyone in years to come will wax lyrical about it. Now, would elliot get into it, no Bajetic, probably not. Thiago possibly if he's having a good day. Bellingham? Again I'm unsure I'd swap Henderson Mount for windy, again perhaps? I suppose what I'm alluding to is it doesn't take 100mil per player to build a midfield, but also highlights how far off we've fell.
I think the problem is we're absolutely stacked with midfielders - 11 is my count - but that's also where we have most injuries, drop off and age. Klopp said we can't get more players while nobody is leaving, which makes sense. Keita and Ox will be going, Melo too; Milner will either leave or stay on with minimum playing time possibly coaching role; Carvalho maybe loaned, Elliott's position will depend on how many new midfielders we do get; Jones is stop/start due to injuries; Bajcetic similar to Elliott situation; that leaves the oldies Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho. It's clear we need strengthening. I think we will get Bellingham and a n other.
Bellingham would walk into that functional midfield. would walk in. but your point is valid. the tactic is high intensity closing down every avenue to get that balk back in the opponents half. the second there's a viable out ball we are ****ed cos the opponent is in on the back line. the midfield functioned well in that set up but now we have new issues to face. the game as moved on since 2019/20. peopel have figures out how to play us. now it's 10 men back teams looking to pump ball at a guy isolating one cb. they bypass the press. (villa 2-7. parked grealish at LW on the half way line and hoofed it at him. he was in about 10 times with absolutely no thought how to change. City did it to us in community shield with bravo on goal kicks ffs. or its high press now like fulham and we can't cope at all cos team have realised that our CBs don't have too many options to pass to so a bit of a press and they can push us right back to keeper, we then hoof it away in the end. A function midfield who can run all day is no longer enough. We need to be providing options for the pass and getting o nthe turn to get the ball to the forwards. We need also peoepl who can play against that deep lying team so the cbs are not the playmakers. Thaigo can pass it but can't run. elliott can run about and can shoot but his intercepting and tacking is poor henderson won't tunr, he has to have space to play and face the right way. his running is less as well. Fabinho's legs are seriously slowing up. he's improving a little but thats his limit and he will drop off again. Milner could never play cm well, he's a fialed winger who drifts wide constantly. jones is also a fialed winger really. he needs to move the ball quicker and learn to tackl ox is another failed winger. just wants to be ahead of the ball all the time. keita is a crock. the lad could turn and could tackel and could pass and dribble but he just has flopped. if we look at bajcetic at 18. his reading of game is excellent. He can run, he can intercept, he can pass, he can shoot, he sees the game well. at 18 he offers just about every thing the adults do, just in a slight frame. He is doing really really well. as i said teams have figured klopp out. they know to bypass the press if they want to sit deep or to press up on the cbs if they want to play higher up. Sides can make us play wide by sitting in good shape and we just don't really go into the box enough for crosses and headers early so its tough to score and be free when the box is packed. they then ping the ball into the wide channel and can break. Other sides like briton and fulham absolutely spank us cos they push up and we cannot cope. We are a back to play midfield putting the ball straight back at the cbs who then have no outball. Alisson is constantly under pressure to play a long pass out to full backs and control it and he frankly doesn't like kicking it without controlling it first. They give us a small chance to play in behind but push 3 or 4 on just to make us crack.
Maybe.........although it's also coincided with getting players back (Jota,Bobby,Konate) and given us a much stronger bench
I've not seen anything if Bellingham that suggests he's anything like the hype around him to be honest. The rest of the post just reiterates how ****e our midfield is now. Do you think packed defences and long balls have only just occurred to managers this season? Nobody dared press us when we had the functional 3, they feared being taken apart. Intact we'd rejoice if a team decided to attack.
no, I've said that we've seen this sitting off and hitting long bacll increasing as a trend over 2/3 years. sides have been parking the bus for a good while against us but the pushing up in our faces is now another increasing thread as they no longer fear getting destroyed for committing a few players forward. the point is if you simply don't sit 9 men back and let us walk into your half unopposed its actually quite easy push us back because you can just go push our midfielders to pass that ball back and then close on the cbs. Its not just players not able to run about, its players not moving side to side and being the passing option and getting turned and passing on. If you apply the least bit of pressure to henderson or fabinho then they'll knock it back where it came from.
He's much better than your average 19y/o. Wouldn't call him world class. He's certainly not getting Salah-level wages like some suggest. What makes him valuable is potential "if he's this good at nineteen...". Potential isnt always realised so there would be some risk. However, he's already good enough to slide into our starting XI and has the potential to get even better. He could be world class in a few years. He's worth gambling on... As long as we don't go too overboard.
When fab first joined, I thought he was a revelation in the position, actually looked to take the ball on the turn, Henderson in the 6 roll could be replaced with a bounce net the amount of times the ball hit him and went back to the defender. He's still the same but fab has gone the same way. I think thiago was introduced to hopefully add in more control, an ability to pick the ball up and move it quickly get us up the park and pick a pass. We can see how well that's turned out. The midfield is dysfunctional. Losing windy and replacing him with thiago was supposed to lead to a transition of how we play. But fab and Henderson have both slowed incredibly at the same time, so there's no one to do his running for him. I agree, A change in how we play is needed, teams need to reinvent themselves. The fall off in the midfield is obvious, but klopps instance in trying to play the same way should also be examined. Why at no point we didn't at least try thiago and fab sitting deep and let Carvalho, elliot or Bobby play higher is beyond me. We've reverted back to type, midfield runners and we look better for it, but it won't carry us for ever.
