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Bumps said:
Don’t be sorry
It makes me laugh every time
You just too intelligent for a mere small tiny thing like me lol
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No mate, it's not intelligence - it's just knowing a bit about things you're interested in.
Nothing wrong with small tiny things.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
They have to be over 21.

soon is a relative term here.

We are losing phillips, kellher (probably), ox and milner.

We only registered 23 players for this season in the prem and 7 HG players. we will lose 4 this year.

Trent, gomez and henderson will be left. We can add jones to the list. will will sadly be adding rhys williams to that list as well even though hes worse than phillips. why? HG quota.

We need to be very clear here. We won't be able to register any more that 17 foreign players so HG coming in is a must

IMO:

GK: adrian leaves and we try to get a cheap ****ty no 3 in and we will promote davies (he is only 19 so won't count) If kelleher goes of course)
CB: Williams added
Ramasy - won't be HG anyway i think but is 19 now.
Bajcetic is 18 won't be hg for 3 years more!
elliott is 19
carvalho is 20 - he won't be hg next season.

4 out, I see 2 in. this is not a great situation to be in but its a 2 season issue.

BTW bellingham is 19. he must must must either stay in germany for HG or move now to england to have a chance at HG in england. I think 1 season u21 and then he is HG in 2 seasons time (for you bellingham lovers)

Our foreign list assuming Matip and adrian go added to keita, and artur and firmino going......

1. alisson
2. VVD
3. Konate
4. robertson
5. tsimikas
6. fabinho
7. thiago
8. diaz
9. gakpo
10. jota
11. salah
12. nunez
13.
14.
15.
16.
17

We will have 16 senior players next season. plus 5 kids and one **** player in williams.

theres HUGE scope for FSG to cheap this out and try get guys to extend (keita, matip and milner) or to buy players.
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They don't have to be over 21. They don't need to be including in the squad if under 21 but can be included if you wish and therefore they can be used to fulfill the HG quota (not yet though) should we wish
 
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Zanjinho said:
They don't have to be over 21. They don't need to be including in the squad if under 21 but can be included if you wish and therefore they can be used to fulfill the HG quota (not yet though) should we wish
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well let me put it this way.

For the Prem: to be qualified you must meet the criteria of 3 full seasons with club in the country in question under age of 21 (or the club in particular)

for the CL: 4 "Club-trained" players are those who were on the club's books for at least three years between the age of 15 and 21.
4"association-trained" players are those on another club's books in the same association for three years between the ages of 15 and 21.


In this case Carvalho and Elliott are on the both to different statuses.

So bajcetic won't qualify for either list next season. He will have 1.5 years on the book when it starts

elliott? I presume at this point this is season 3 with club and obviously has 1 on loan with blackburn.. so maybe he will make HG list? what do you think?

Carvalho could be association player i guess?

Davies would be Ok for a list for europe according to you? what do you think?
 
The Hg thing is sort of needs to be looked at it differently.

Ignore trying to work out if we have enough HG players put it this way.

We can only have 17 foreign players over the age of 21 in the squad.

If we have that plus 15 under 21s then fine.

If we have that and no under 21 then 8hg would be nice to fill out the squad.

It only really matters if we don’t have young players but we do have a few so it’s all good.

The more important [HASHTAG]#list[/HASHTAG] is the one Mito put up of foreign players. If Adrian Keita firmino all go that frees up 3 foreign slots for new first team players.
 
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well thats one way to look at it but the other way is following the logic of the rule which is to have a minimum of this level of assiciation trained and club trained players on the basis that these rules could increase the number in future.

also its not 17 foreign players over 21. its 17 pleayers total who don't meet the requirements for list A as HG or list B.


I do agree I was looking there and I went oh... thats a lot of squad gaps very quickly.

If matip is retained it wouldn't shock me at all.


my look at the squad right now is

GK: alisson, Davies (I think he's good) An.other (cheap player like gulasic who is club trained or english journeyman)
RB: Trent, Ramsay (issues here)
LB: robertson, tsimikas
RCB: Konate, TBD (i think we will retain matip, we are too cheap to buy here) williams
LCB: VVD Gomez
No 6: Fabinho, Bajcetic. (again too cheap to fix this one)
RCM: henderson, elliott (again too cheap to fix this)
LCM: Thiago, An.Other, Jones I think this is one buy that will come
LW: Nunez, Diaz
CF: Gakpo, Jota
RW: Salh, Doak, ellioot/ gordon

I can see us making a song and dance about one cm when 2 or even 3 are needed and not do anything at the defence and let it rot and become the seaons after next's transfer issue.

A cheap keeper, one CM.. we will see. We need a no 6 and two CMs IMO. We should really be moving thaigo on as well imo.

It'd be nic ein cloud cuckoo land to see morton emerge from blackburn like a brick ****house of pure quality and bajcetic to put on a stoneof muscle over the summer but in reality we will be looking at fabinho in a zimmer frame ably supported by henderson on a mobility scooter and thaigo in a bath chair and blanket.
 
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