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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    And that's way too much to replace in one season... Even if you're owned by Qatar and laughing at FFP rules. You try to replace almost a dozen players in one season your balance goes way off.

    The rebuilding will take a few years.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'm just saying that that's the dead wood.

    do with it what you will.

    Phillips = Williams (nobody wants to play Phillips anyway) Homegrown quota only.

    ox = morton or whoever you like, offers **** all. out of contract.

    milner is old man time. blocking young players progress. better than Henderson but still. out of contract.

    Arthur. no ****ing loss is he?

    Adrian. should be gone 2 years ago. Harvey Davies will take the slot. we then will get some old.falla who's English to help squad if in Europe.


    it's patently obvious nobody will make salah an offer and it's obvious we will secure firmino so that's 6 forwards secured.

    it's also obvious matip is all but done and obvious fabinho is all but done neither will get more.money elsewhere

    the challenge is moving them on

    I listed an 11 that includes none of them and we really don't need to put them in either. you can have a few for subs but they won't be forcing their way back in imo.

    1.5mil per week in wages for very little return this season some should always have been moved on.

    we might have a few lads like.morton to five a try out to next season as well.

    only need to add 3 or 4 players to freshen up and then move the rest on as and when their bloated expiring contracts allow.

    for the record out sales are more likely to be

    jan:
    Phillips 8mil.

    summer
    kelleher 30mil
    ox free
    keita free
    milner free
    adrian free
    Arthur ffs

    we are trying to resign firmino and we have then only 12 months more of thiago and matip.

    this is all going to eventually happen.

    it's the critical.buys that come in that's important
     
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  3. Milk..

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    Yeah and overall I agree, they're deadwood and need removing. Just saying I think it's a long term project. I don't think next year is our year no matter what we do. I think top four is a decent goal if we replace some of the dead wood with good.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    and some players deliver...aka new forwards.
     
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  5. Mr Beej

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    May as well close this thread.
     
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  6. Milk..

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    Still time to loan Melo's cousin on transfer day.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well we were told on the 2nd Jan that we were not buying anyone else
     
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  8. Lucas Talking

    Lucas Talking Well-Known Member

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    You are optimistic that we will sign anyone? Even Melo's cousin?
    One might say you are an Arthur pint full kind of guy
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    never change chavz.


    yes they are so consumed by greed they are going over Enzo Fernández again.

    I read one arsehole this evening state "after enzo just gk left"

    the club who had a very very good keeper in mendy and the world's most expensive flop.

    never.mind the fact that in this mindless excess they've completely forgotten they've actually no striker <laugh>
     
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  10. Zanjinho

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    Except there is still the basis of a string first eleven so a lot of incoming wouldn't necessarily upset the rhythm (if there is any!). Agree it's unrealistic though
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    again it's.just a list.of deadwood.

    I've shown that bar keita today our current "best 11" don't really contain any of them.

    I've also shown reality with contracts so like it or not the club has a big call to make whether to stick with guys who are nowhere near the level or accept replacing them. hence frimino new contract.

    4231 is more than possible next year and given we have no Europe staring us in the mush a smaller squad is not actually a bad thing.

    imo next summer

    1. old fart gk who is English for hg.
    2. promote Harvey Davies to reserve keeper
    3. sell kelleher for 30mil (if his mouth is anything to go by)
    4. release milner
    5. release ox
    6. release keita (the second he signs a contract he will be injured)
    7. sign firmino as 6th forward giving us 6 for 3 slots in 433 (before kids)
    8. release adrain. the man nobody remembers until squads come out.
    9. release Arthur back home and tell ward to do one for brining him.

    that's.more than enough but only one of the above weakness today's best side.

    alisson Davies a.n.other
    trent ramsay
    konate matip*
    vvd gomez*
    Robertson tsimikas
    bajcetic fabinho
    thaigo* jones*
    henderson*
    diaz gakpo
    nunez jota firmino
    salah Elliott

    the same 2 cms are required as are required now but the squad will be leaner and with 1 game a week there's no concern over realistic or no.

    3 or 4 signings tidy this squad up to try chase 4th next season. it won't be chasing 1st again.
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Ah well, maybe we'll do some actual business in the summer. It's not like we have any desperate issues in the squad at the moment.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    My count of just what I have said this far is the following for Prem squad (the only thing we need worry about)

    14 foreign (so only 3 slots open to buy to. think on that when people say keep this guy or that guy)
    5 HG. Trent, gomez, jones, henderson, williams (4 are club trained)

    underage: davies, ramsay, elliott, carvalho, bajcetic (don't need to go in squad)

    people need to start getting this balance through their heads. we are going to lose kelleher, ox, milner, phillips this summer. thats going to hollow out of european squad numbers.

    not that it matters next season given we are not going to be in europe at all but 4 players must be club trained and 4 HG (any less in either and you lose the squad slot.)

    We need 3 HG players. In reality we actually need 4 good ones as williams is not even championship level and henderson is done.

    this is why I am saying adrian will go and some useless keeper will turn up to take that slot. someone somewhere will be association trained like scott carson is at city.

    15 foreign slots. 1 will have to be bellingham (for you deluded sorts who still maintain he is deffo coming)

    Alisson
    Konate
    Matip*
    VVD
    robertson
    Tsimikas
    Thiago*
    Fabinho*
    Diaz
    Gakpo
    Jota
    Firmino
    Nunez
    Salah

    We can buy 3 foreign players. theres another 2 that are dead mean walking in midfield and one at the back = 6.

    But in reality we need to watch how to get these kids on b list through to over 21 a list. elliott, carvalho, bajcetic, davies. We cannot afford to have loads of williams' and jones' who are not actually good enough to fill lthese.
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    But do we need to register Bellingham because he's under 21? I thought players under 21 don't need to be registered.
     
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  15. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Went through this a while back

    For the PL, no as he's under21 and HG
    For any European (<laugh><doh>) Yes

    From the PL Website:

    "Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "Home Grown Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of 25 players, must be "Home Grown".

    Each club squad list is below as well as an additional list of each club's registered Under-21 players who are eligible over and above the squad limit of 25 players.

    What is a Home-Grown Player?
    A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

    Rules on U21 players
    Under-21 players are eligible over and above the limit of 25 players per squad. For the 2022/23 campaign, Under-21 players will have been born on or after 1 January 2001"
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    I just can't believe the lack of ambition at this club. Failing to strengthen from a position of power for several windows, and even when we're desperate, there is a lack of desire to solve these issues.

    When we had our biggest CB crisis in 20/21, we went from 1st to barely scraping top 4 because we skimped on buying a quality CB to see us through.

    You would have thought the club would have learnt our lesson but no - we needed a midfielder in summer and in the end, we got Arthur on loan.

    Fair enough, maybe we finally learnt our lesson since and prioritise a couple of signings for first January ... oh but no. We're just going to wait for Jude in summer, spend all of our budget on one player who most likely won't even come now.

    It's pathetic.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Cancelo to Bayern. Loan with option to buy.

    come out of no where. Form this year isn’t as good as previous and seems to be out of favour since the WC. Wonder if been a falling out there
     
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  18. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    He's 29 right?

    I'm guessing Pep can spot a regression and wants to capitalise on his high value. It's what we should be doing ...
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    ff teams ruined lol.

    seriously though chavs have bid 105.mil for Fernández. according to their fans who have never seen him.play he is utterly world class and the best thing ever.

    same as (insert name here) player they signed last year or year before etc.

    caicedo is a free shot for arsenal now in summer for 50mil as Brighton already have the next lad lined up for 5mil.
     
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  20. Mr Beej

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    £5mil? Is that all? Maybe we could offer £6mil. Or have we given up completely?
     
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