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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Some of these are an improvement...<laugh>

     
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  2. Stroller

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    Sunak tied himself in knots this morning by refusing to say whether he uses a private GP for himself and his family.

    Plainly he does, so why not say so?
     
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    Because he’s absolutely **** at answering the easiest questions. Obviously he’s not sat there on 111 in agony. Nobody expects him to be.
     
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    I didn't really understand this line of questioning. He's virtually a billionaire, he ain't joining an NHS waiting list any time soon. It was so painful watching him pretend to empathise with people on 18k a year.
     
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  5. Staines R's

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    After watching the Sunak interview I’ve come to the conclusion that Sunak is one of the most slippery, eely characters in politics today…..he seems to use it as a party political broadcast, spouting bollox and not actually giving a straight answer to any questions asked of him.

    I also realised I quite fancy Laura Kuenssberg
     
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    It’s hard to imagine him as a ‘conviction’ politician. Let’s hope he’s basically competent, for as long as he lasts.

    Keunssberg? Better get to Specsavers…..
     
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  7. qprbeth

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    Maggie Thatcher had a private GP. I think Boris when he got Covid went in via a NHS hospital, but probably got VIP treatment
    But even me... the big Woke Tory hater ....have no problems with that. He was our PM, it was a crisis.

    Why doesn't he say he has a private GP. It is one less bothering the NHS to be honest (and he can afford it)...I think we can all agree with that.
    That non statement rankles much worse to me, than just saying he had private medical care


    I am not against private medicine if you can afford it, and that it doesn't impinge on the NHS.
    Own GP surgeries, own hospitals. But I do think private medicine should contribute to the training of doctors, nurses, paramedics, physios too, not just skim hem off after they have been trained by the state.
     
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  8. Staines R's

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    I would probably regret it afterwards…..
     
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    The problem is though, like private education, it does impact the state system
     
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    Especially once Mrs Staines finds out <diva>:emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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    Nah, I don’t think she’d give a **** to be honest
     
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    What's wrong with having sex with a 9 year old girl? This is worrying
     
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    So Mr Barclay thinks I have to work harder to justify any pay rise ?

    FFS fella, I already give you 30 mins for free every start of every shift because of the fact it’s impossible to check my ambulance over properly in the 10 mins allotted to me………and if I missed anything then someone might just die.
     
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    These lot really are shooting themselves in both feet! It's like the govt are on self destruct mode. Hopefully they get wiped out for good!!
     
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    He's a politician, they never give a straight answer, it's against their religion, they're all c*nts...
     
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    I honestly feel like I’ve had enough mate…..and I’m truthfully not just saying that. I don’t need a pat on the back, or a “well done you” or even Thursday night clapathhon…….but what I definitely don’t need is to feel unappreciated and undervalued by those ****s in the government.
    I’ve come off SM (new employers check your accounts so I’m seeing) and already looking elsewhere…….the only thing that’s keeping me there right now is my wonderful crewmate.
    Im beginning to think if the stress is worth the effort….
     
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    Talking to my GP neighbour yesterday, a good bloke who runs a very efficient practice. While the fundamental issue remains capacity - there just aren’t enough clinicians to meet demand, he said misuse of the system was also massive. Recently this is from parents, whose precious children have never had simple, common illnesses because of lockdown and COVID precautions, who now demand attention at the slightest cough or sniff. He had one example of an eight year old whose parents had demanded he saw a GP ten times in a week. He had a cold. It culminated in the kid himself phoning the surgery one morning because he’d woken up with a sore throat.

    His fear is that people who actually need help won’t get it as he’s submerged with time wasters. His reluctant solution - charge to see a GP. But like me he reckons that nothing will change until there is a very obvious and public collapse in services. Which is in fact happening, in slow motion (epically slow motion if you are waiting outside a hospital in an ambulance, or have been on a trolley in a corridor for hours).

    I can’t think of any short term fixes which will make a difference. Long term it has to be workforce expansion, but a properly rewarded workforce so they are retained, some kind of change in behaviour of service users….and a serious rethink of how the whole thing is put together, funded and what it’s for.
     
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    And I’ve been saying the self same thing how many times ?
    A massive, often ignored, factor in this whole failing is the constant misuse of the health system by people who don’t need it, and quite honestly should be able to look after themselves.
    Nothing frustrates me more than going to someone in and EMERGENCY capacity, who is meant to have a 10 out of 10 pain score….to find them on the phone talking happily to their friends.

    First question “What pain relief have you taken”

    Usual answer “I haven’t taken anything as I don’t believe in taking pills”

    Followed by the sound of my head thumping the wall in frustration……..
     
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    Blimey Staines, Grant schappes or whatever the plebs name is, really doesn't like you lot, listening to him waffling ****e about the new anti strike laws he's trying to introduce. Apparently, you can't have a mature conversation around the issue. Then another Tory pipes up about the hospitality industry suffering cos of train strikes!
    These ****s seriously don't live in the real world. Hospitality and the whole economy is ****ed because of that superb mini budget Truss announced and the fact that nobody has a spare penny to scratch their arse with. Raynor was totally correct when she called them scum!
     
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    I haven’t seen his bile but I guess it will about how we MUST maintain a certain level of attendance to 999 calls during strike action ?

    Well I can absolutely and categorically state in writing that during the last day of industrial action, myself and my colleagues VOLUNTARILY maintained a certain level of attendance to “life threatening emergencies”.....you have my absolute word on that and I would call Schapps an absolute liar if he state that this did not happen.
    As they say....Never Trust a Tory !!!
     
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