Doesn't take long, if you've the stomach for it...
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Match Day Thread Hull City v Blackpool
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I think we need to give Rosenior time. The team we have has been put together by Acun & Shota to play a certain way, whatever that style was under Shota.. Rosie needs a bit of time and a few transfer windows to move players out and bring in players that fit his way of playing. It'll take a while before we can really see what he's trying to do.
This example has been used many times before, but if Klopp & Pep needed time to get their ideas across, why are some expecting Rosie to get it right in a few months? I've heard certain managers say the keeper is one of the most important players for playing this brand of football.. Ingram isnt going to become that keeper, we'll need to eventually bring one in who is composed, can pick a pass and has good decision making. I dont think Baxter is the answer either, but currently they are our keepers.
You see Liverpool bring in Alison, and Man City with Ederson.. it changed everything about their team, suddenly it clicks together. As someone said on here the other day, you'll still see mistakes playing this way, but it is indeed risk & reward, and clearly some of the best managers in the world believe its worth the risk.
Rosie is no mug, he's clearly an intelligent guy, he's thought about this way of playing for a long time. It's not like Shota-ball where the fans and more importantly the players had no idea what we were trying to do with the ball. But we're going to have to be patient and buy into it. I'd be very surprised if we didnt already see big improvements when Liam can bring in 3 or 4 players in January. Then come the end of the season when the window opens again, Acun will no doubt back him again, hopefully correcting some of the mistakes made this summer.. Maybe then we can be a bit more critical.
This example has been used many times before, but if Klopp & Pep needed time to get their ideas across, why are some expecting Rosie to get it right in a few months? I've heard certain managers say the keeper is one of the most important players for playing this brand of football.. Ingram isnt going to become that keeper, we'll need to eventually bring one in who is composed, can pick a pass and has good decision making. I dont think Baxter is the answer either, but currently they are our keepers.
You see Liverpool bring in Alison, and Man City with Ederson.. it changed everything about their team, suddenly it clicks together. As someone said on here the other day, you'll still see mistakes playing this way, but it is indeed risk & reward, and clearly some of the best managers in the world believe its worth the risk.
Rosie is no mug, he's clearly an intelligent guy, he's thought about this way of playing for a long time. It's not like Shota-ball where the fans and more importantly the players had no idea what we were trying to do with the ball. But we're going to have to be patient and buy into it. I'd be very surprised if we didnt already see big improvements when Liam can bring in 3 or 4 players in January. Then come the end of the season when the window opens again, Acun will no doubt back him again, hopefully correcting some of the mistakes made this summer.. Maybe then we can be a bit more critical.
Sorry Hullborn, you seem to be in some sort of post Christmas fantasy. Saying Klopp and Pep needed time....??? and you cannot possibly in this century compare Edison and Alison with Baxter Ingram... in front of Edison and Alison are international quality skilled footballers... the secret to a great manager, is getting the max out of the players at your disposal with a system that gets results not promises of better things to come..
I just don’t think players at this level are good enough to play this Barcelona style keep ball without playing themselves into trouble too often. Players can press and harass and force mistakes at any level but only the best footballers pull off this style of play reliably.
I just don’t think it’s possible to pull it off with what we’ve got and a happy medium needs to be found where the defenders don’t **** about getting rushed into playing hospital passes.
I just don’t think it’s possible to pull it off with what we’ve got and a happy medium needs to be found where the defenders don’t **** about getting rushed into playing hospital passes.
My thoughts entirely...Good Post.
I'd prefer to not pass the ball about in our 6 yard area or even our 18 yard area
The goalkeeper should be able to throw or kick the ball to full backs, wingers or midfielders who are 30 or 40 yards from our goal
The goalkeeper should be able to throw or kick the ball to full backs, wingers or midfielders who are 30 or 40 yards from our goal
Some on here complain about "the ball coming straight back" if the ball is passed up field.
I'd rather the ball come straight back from up field than go straight into the back of the net because of a panicked pass from six yards out
I'd rather the ball come straight back from up field than go straight into the back of the net because of a panicked pass from six yards out
Are you saying they didn't? Did they have their teams playing exacxtly as they wanted from day 1? Are you just being contrary for the sake of it?
Which is precisely the opposite of what he did do. Try reading it all again, maybe a bit more slowly.
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We were right to release him. The issue is we never replaced him.
We do .... but Longman and Tufan are far from our major weaknesses at the moment.
Woods for sure is part of the problem. Far from on his own though. A neat & tidy player, but nothing like what we need alongside Seri.
At 2.09 how a goalie can set up an attack throwing the ball out instead of rolling it out for someone to pass it sideways at the edge of the box or back to the keeper.
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If it happens once a game as opposed to happening every time the ball lands on their centre halves head then I'll take being able to play some football and not being 3 down before we get a kick against ta very much.
Hasn't it already been clarified that that's what we're supposed to do. If it's not on don't do it cos the space is at the top end?
Or boot it up field as hard as possible in the hope that sometimes there's a percentage chance of winning it in the oppositions third! It's a tactic known as 'rocket science.'
Despite it been the way Rosie wants to play, players have to take some portion of the blame for making a suicidal pass instead of a long ball, especially from our own free kick. Rosie was going nuts on the touchline how many times did Ingram have the option to throw the ball out wide and never did.
Selective interpretation to sustain an already adopted narrative. Some deliberately aren't accepting that's not the way the manager wants them to play in that situation despite both going nuts on the touchline at the time and clarifying he should have gone long post match in interviews.
Same people that are blind to the fact we're 14th in the form table since he took over and changed style - which is a massive improvement despite the players being new to it and only going to get better at it with time and familiarity.
He was but he was as slow as a dog getting back for the ball. I thought the Blackpool fiasco was completely down to the players, 2 hospital balls from Ingram, Woods too slow getting back and a fairly feeble attempt at a block from Seri. Hard to blame tactics for that.