Strikes

[Ivan Dobsky]

To be honest I don’t see Nurses, Firefighters or some teachers as low skilled workers, so I definitely wouldn’t begrudge them a pay rise, but let’s look at this objectively instead of through streams of tears…

We are all in the same situation, I find it very unlikely that the vast majority of private sector workers have been given a pay increase in line with inflation. So again, I repeat myself, these moaners are trying to make the U.K. recession-proof and that’ll only deepen a recession.

UK public vs private sector wage growth 2022 | Statista

 

[Sucky]

Every ****er on this site is the same…they graft for a living.

Some are obviously earning more than others…maybe paying a bit more or less in taxes but you shouldn’t be mistaken

none of you are that kind of ‘rich’ that it elevates your class from any other grafter on this site or out there.

you’re all part of the group the Tories look down on…you’re all working class and at best ‘middle class’ wannabes

If it came down to a culling process

you’re all in the same queue heading for the same treatment

You’re all under the banner of ‘the Mob’

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[Sucky]

a fat lesbian?

ok thanks for the input pumpmymouth

Was gonna say

Gaggin for it

Bit you saved her from my sexism

Very chivalrous

 

[Spurlock]

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[Tel (they/them)]

Then you should stay out of the conversation when it comes to those who have other needs and expectancies of the governing bodies

Support your bredren and neighbour in their wish to be as self sufficient as yourself

If they, the government don’t affect you and can’t affect your lifestyle(which is a great place to be in and I’m very happy for you bro) then the contribution of those in the lowest bands shouldn’t be an issue to you either and you should want two rubbish collections a week for your brothers too.

Don’t fall for the divide n conquer tricks mate…like I said…you, me and the rest on here…we’re all going to the same concentration camp. They’d probably get rid of you first because you’re house is bigger so more useful, your bank balance is healthier so maybe you’re a bigger threat…I reckon you’d be near the front of the queue but keep an eye out for us…we’re right behind you…in the same queue.

I’ll probs just get somebody else to queue for me tbh bro.

 

[Sucky]

I’ll probs just get somebody else to queue for me tbh bro.

Hopefully not my dad.

Hes like a queue terrorist, always finds trouble. Fukin nightmare tbh

 

[Peej]

Phone **** up, nice considered post and it goes all weird.

anyways, I’m out, working year is done. Be safe ya’ll

 

[Tel (they/them)]

Hopefully not my dad.

Hes like a queue terrorist, always finds trouble. Fukin nightmare tbh

I don’t like queues me, especially traffic queues, I’ll happily drive an extra 50 miles on a journey just so I’m actually moving, than to sit in a traffic jam.

 

[brb]

maybe I should have quoted and underlined your post.

“Mick Lynch has also been disingenous, he said the Christmas Eve strikes don't affect anyone, because they can travel earlier, another lie, not one person on here has corrected that lie, because all train stock has to be in certain places at certain times, so it does have a knock affect prior, but he won't tell people that, because he knows that willaffect a wide range of people, including the poor. ”

I think if you are poor, and can afford to travel by train, looking at prices, are you really poor? I avoid due to the high cost of train travel in the U.K. Was cheaper to drive to Nottingham and London over the last few weekends with family and pay parking than travel by train. Not everyone has a car, but rail ticket costs are shocking.

It's Christmas, people travel for all sorts of reasons at Christmas, including the poor. Who knows how their ticket was funded, and what business is that of ours, thus your suggestion to say someone is not poor if they travel by train is an utterly astonding piece of judgment on your part. I'm flabbergasted.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Some saying the nurses are being led by socialists…..


Errrm, that’s what the NHS and how it came to be. And Piers Morgan, well he can get to ****.

Seems apt at this time to remember that neither the RMT nor the RCN are affiliated to the Labour Party. Despite the Mail, Sun, Sunak and the ever-increasing Tory news channel called the BBC referring to them as such, they are NOT the labour Party's paymasters.

 

[Chief]

It's Christmas, people travel for all sorts of reasons at Christmas, including the poor. Who knows how their ticket was funded, and what business is that of ours, thus your suggestion to say someone is not poor if they travel by train is an utterly astonding piece of judgment on your part. I'm flabbergasted.

I suppose the really poor could get on a bus?

Takes (what feels like) days to get you there, but cheaper for the impoverished.

 

[Treble]

I'm a big fan of the trams personally.

Relatively cheap, run like clockwork, get straight in and out of town no problem.

 

[Chief]

I'm a big fan of the trams personally.

Relatively cheap, run like clockwork, get straight in and out of town no problem.

Not cross country though, which is what trains are for.

Absolutely agree though, trams are great.

 

[brb]

Seems apt at this time to remember that neither the RMT nor the RCN are affiliated to the Labour Party. Despite the Mail, Sun, Sunak and the ever-increasing Tory news channel called the BBC referring to them as such, they are NOT the labour Party's paymasters.

I've not seen anyone on here quote the sources you have mentioned, myself I've generally posted links to the Guardian, so let's stop the play on words, and have some straight up answers....

Forget the affiliation bit, how much have the Labour Party received in union donations, from ALL unions, let's say for the period the whole of 2021-todate.

Oh and btw, I'm still waiting for you to tell me what train drivers do, but that can wait for now, I don't wish the above question to be drowned out by nonsense.

 

[brb]

I suppose the really poor could get on a bus?

Takes (what feels like) days to get you there, but cheaper for the impoverished.

They could get on a bus absolutely agree, but as you allude to it is generally better to go by train. I'm sure it's not unreasonable on my part either that people may be funded to make a journey, especially if it saved the hosting family from making a long round trip from A to B in a car (and the latter return routine).

 

[Chief]

They could get on a bus absolutely agree, but as you allude to it is generally better to go by train. I'm sure it's not unreasonable on my part either that people may be funded to make a journey, especially if it saved the hosting family from making a long round trip from A to B in a car (and the latter return routine).

Trains absolutley are (or should be) the best way to traverse the country.

Especially at this time of year, and especially for those unable to drive these journeys.

I've got it right now with my Mum, who is coming to us (on the train) on the 27th. I've told her coutless times to read the details, not the headline.

The Headline? Trains on strike between December 24th and 27th = travel chaos. ALL media outlets are guilty of this.

The details? Train drivers aren't going on strike, and trains don't run on Christmas Day and Boxing Day anyway. They will be running again on the 27th. So, maybe some minor disruption on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, which people can surely plan around.

The media are as guilty as anyone in this scaremongering. More than anyone in fact.

 

[brb]

Trains absolutley are (or should be) the best way to traverse the country.

Especially at this time of year, and especially for those unable to drive these journeys.

I've got it right now with my Mum, who is coming to us (on the train) on the 27th. I've told her coutless times to read the details, not the headline.

The Headline? Trains on strike between December 24th and 27th = travel chaos. ALL media outlets are guilty of this.

The details? Train drivers aren't going on strike, and trains don't run on Christmas Day and Boxing Day anyway. They will be running again on the 27th. So, maybe some minor disruption on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, which people can surely plan around.

The media are as guilty as anyone in this scaremongering. More than anyone in fact.

That's not the full story though Chief, people would have planned in advance, Mick Lynch made it quite clear they were not on strike until 6pm on Christmas Eve, so everyone just needed to make an earlier journey in that day. But rail companies are cancelling trains, the earlier trains as a result, because employees and rolling stock would need to be in certain locations at certain times to meet the 6pm deadline, hence that affects journeys that would not have been factored in by the customer, why would they have known that?

Edit: So on a long journey, that would make a massive difference to any scheduled earlier trains and nothing to do with the media, because I've not heard them mention the above.

 

[BobbyD]

It's greed in some cases and the unions playing politics and that affects everyone. I asked previously what do the train drivers actually do, after being originally told they weren't striking, that is disingenous, they are planning to strike again on the 5th Jan.

Mick Lynch has also been disingenous, he said the Christmas Eve strikes don't affect anyone, because they can travel earlier, another lie, not one person on here has corrected that lie, because all train stock has to be in certain places at certain times, so it does have a knock affect prior, but he won't tell people that, because he knows that will affect a wide range of people, including the poor.

There is no divide, the unions are a bunch of shhites who don't care who they affect, in fact if you are poor they are likely to stamp on you. Sorry my heart bleeds for Mick Lynch who is easily on over 80k a year, you can guarantee one thing, he will have a lovely Christmas, while others will suffer pay loses.

120 actually.

I'm a big fan of lynchy. Talks a lot of sense.

May draft him in to come break the monopoly in hk

 

[brb]

120 actually.

I'm a big fan of lynchy. Talks a lot of sense.

May draft him in to come break the monopoly in hk

£120k

Brill Bobby, at least it's not something I read in the Malice, hope that's not where you got your info from bro.

 

[BobbyD]

£120k

Brill Bobby, at least it's not something I read in the Malice, hope that's not where you got your info from bro.

Lol I've been quoted a few times so thought i would look it up. 84 is his salary. With benefits its estimated at 120k.

Worth every penny. He's been great, doesnt throw hissy fits, doesnt get flustered just hits back with facts