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The mackems have got an agenda and so have the protester.

The SMB are mentally ill.

The protesters are Bolshevik Leninist with an agenda for regime change in Saudi, using us as their bill board.
They don't give a **** if they destroy our club... as long as they further their agenda then the ends justifies the means to them.

Supporters need to realise who they are and what where dealing with here.:emoticon-0176-smoke
 
I thought he spoke a lot of sense, I’m sure the vast majority of our fans look upon what happens in their country as barbaric. I’ve got no problem with folk speaking out on human rights.
But then again, I did **** all about what happens there, and still don’t.
I support Newcastle. Nothing (apart from going in a “super league”) will change that.
 
I thought he spoke a lot of sense, I’m sure the vast majority of our fans look upon what happens in their country as barbaric. I’ve got no problem with folk speaking out on human rights.
But then again, I did **** all about what happens there, and still don’t.
I support Newcastle. Nothing (apart from going in a “super league”) will change that.
The guy seems to think that the only reason that these things are happening in Saudi is because they have a dictatorship. He fails to understand that it is predominantly a deeply conservative society as a whole and I would suspect that the majority of the population do not approve of homosexuality and are happy for it to be illegal. I know because a lot of Moslems have the same attitude here.

It will change slowly, that is happening in Indonesia, but it practices a lot more moderate form of Islam than Saudi. Saudi will take longer and instead of pillorying them to try and effect immediate change we need to engage with them and accept that this isn't going to happen overnight, as the interviewer suggests. The UK only abolished the death penalty for sodomy in 1861 (it stood for 300years before that) and only legalised it in 1967.

What the guy doesn't seem to realise is that the Saudi's buying into Newcastle and holding the World Cup in Qatar has provided protesters great opportunities to get their point across on a global stage, something that wouldn't have happened if we had not been taken over by them or FIFA hadn't sorted the vote in Qatar's favour.

As a country we engage with the Middle East on a huge scale. We sell them technology, arms, buy their hydrocarbons. I am not comfortable with us trying to impose values on other countries but if we want to do that we should be doing that by a total ban on trade with them rather than just picking out a couple of sporting engagements. I doubt there is any chance of that and suspect it wouldn't end well if we tried.
 
The guy seems to think that the only reason that these things are happening in Saudi is because they have a dictatorship. He fails to understand that it is predominantly a deeply conservative society as a whole and I would suspect that the majority of the population do not approve of homosexuality and are happy for it to be illegal. I know because a lot of Moslems have the same attitude here.

It will change slowly, that is happening in Indonesia, but it practices a lot more moderate form of Islam than Saudi. Saudi will take longer and instead of pillorying them to try and effect immediate change we need to engage with them and accept that this isn't going to happen overnight, as the interviewer suggests. The UK only abolished the death penalty for sodomy in 1861 (it stood for 300years before that) and only legalised it in 1967.

What the guy doesn't seem to realise is that the Saudi's buying into Newcastle and holding the World Cup in Qatar has provided protesters great opportunities to get their point across on a global stage, something that wouldn't have happened if we had not been taken over by them or FIFA hadn't sorted the vote in Qatar's favour.

As a country we engage with the Middle East on a huge scale. We sell them technology, arms, buy their hydrocarbons. I am not comfortable with us trying to impose values on other countries but if we want to do that we should be doing that by a total ban on trade with them rather than just picking out a couple of sporting engagements. I doubt there is any chance of that and suspect it wouldn't end well if we tried.
Well said.

T
 
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Stadia suggested for the Euros 2028 application - they've got all the big areas covered well although I'm surprised to see "Bramley-Moore Dock" on there as it's barely off the ground yet and don't think cities should have two stadia if it's to be shared around bar maybe london.

Also note there is one not listed on here but I can't remember for the life of me who it was, much like the people who did the visual guide I must have forgotten some small time club