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  1. saintgreg10

    saintgreg10 Well-Known Member

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    Another article filled to the brim with bollocks and tripe...

    Made my blood boil <grr>

    http://www.footballfriendsonline.com/blogs/2011/11/4/karma-sides-with-pardew.html



    Karma Sides with Pardew

    Friday, November 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM | BLOG: Fan Debate


    A little over a year ago Alan Pardew was wandering around the managerial wilderness, still coming to terms with the fact he was not in tenure of a side he had brought a trophy in the cabinet, a top ten finish (made even more impressive by the significant points deduction granted at the start of the season), and a sense of stability.

    Things at Southampton were pulling in the right direction for the first time since their demise which saw them fall from the Premier League to League One, but egos and charismatic clashes meant that Nicola Cortese dismissed the man who had brought St Mary's the joy of a trophy, something no one else had managed since 1976.

    If the ecstasy of a cup triumph wasn't enough to fall back on, the result immediately before Pardew's sacking was a 4-0 demolition of Bristol Rovers, hardly signs of a catastrophe beneath the surface as suggested by those high up the Saints hierarchy. Cortese, acting on hearsay, dismissed Pardew amidst rumours that there was unrest amongst the back room staff, something clearly not emulating onto the pitch.

    Unless you are Cortese himself or in fact rather naive, you will have come to the conclusion along with the almost absolute majority of Saints fans, that there was more to the sacking that came to light. But out of the dark alley of motives came a blinding beacon of Cortese's real motives behind Pardew's ushering away from St Mary's.

    The previous league campaign saw Southampton starting from rock bottom with a disparaging points total of minus 10, the FA's quire on-field punishment for poor off-field misdemeanour's resulting in financial difficulty. But that's a different quarrel. After taking over from Mark Wotte, Pardew led his Southampton side to a 7th place finish, only missing out on the play-offs with two games remaining. Hardly an underachievement given the circumstances, but Cortese felt displeasure at the final standings, something he would bottle until the fateful sacking on 30th August 2010.

    Pardew left Southampton as title favourites, something largely due to his signings, including £1 million man Rickie Lambert from Bristol Rovers, and fellow striker Lee Barnard, both of which incidentally are still leading the Saints line as they look to conquer their latest challenge, the Championship.

    But Pardew is much more than a shroud business man in the transfer market, the Londoner has a unique, and priceless ability to motivate and install unrivalled belief in his players, even at Southampton (who were languishing in the third tier of English football) he made the players feel far too good for their level, something which was transferred onto the pitch with impressive results, under both Pardew's and now Nigel Adkins tenure.

    A little over 3 months since that ominous meeting with Nicola Cortese, Pardew found himself catapulted into the heavenly clouds of the English game, the Premier League. Another controversial sacking this time at Newcastle United at the hands of yet another slightly off-centre owner - Mike Ashley - opened the door for a otherwise lost Pardew, who had been floating about the sporting media like a lost soul. A poll of 40,000 Newcastle United fans found that only 5.5% of them wanted Pardew as their next man in charge. Was Pardew's new role a blessing from karma or a disaster waiting to happen?

    Clearly, karma was on the 50-year-old's side as in his first game in charge in front of 52,000 Geordies full to the brim of uncertainty and unexpectedness, Newcastle ran out 3-1 winners of Liverpool, a result sure to pang in the ears of Cortese and Southampton's board, who still featured several pages further in the sports pages in the county's third tier.

    A FA Cup giant killing didn't help the sceptics after United lost 3-1 to Stevenage Borough, but an infamous 4-4 draw with Arsenal lamented Pardew's arrival back in managerial know-how, after coming from four goals down to claim a extraordinary point off of Arsene Wenger's side.

    A respectable 12th place finish fired a poignant message to those accountable for his St Mary's departure, and his start to the current season will once again shake down the centre of Cortese's spine, setting a Newcastle United record with an unbeaten run to the season of 11 games. In fact. his Newcastle side lie in the Champions League spots out right, and have picked up one more point than Chelsea and just one less than reigning champions Manchester United.

    This managerial fairytale is no less than Pardew deserves. His controversial past should have no bearing on the clear disloyalty shown to him by Southampton, his rewards for leading the Saints to their first trophy in 35 years and propping them up for promotion should have been at St Mary's, but instead he reaps the much larger congratulations of steering a side blighted by disharmony and uncertainty into a Champions League spot, looking like a side ready to conquer the stalwarts of the English game.

    Cortese and Southampton's loss is very much Newcastle and the Premier League's gain.

    Alex O'Loughlin
     
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  2. The Dandy Highwayman

    The Dandy Highwayman Member

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    Yeah, we're really missing him.

    Cortese OUT!
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Just tosh. Cortese obviously felt that Pardew wasn't right for Saints. Pardew never whined too much so was probably paid in full for his contract, which he probably wouldn't have seen out anyway. We are flying and happy with Nigel. Pardew is happy and is doing a good job at a good Prem side. No losers in this story.
     
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    Richard Head

    and it's "shrewd" not "shroud"

    /at the poster not Greg.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Noticed that and assumed a shroud business man was an undertaker. Not much use in the football world, unless you're involved with Pompey<whistle>
     
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  6. saintgreg10

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    Don't get me wrong, i've got nothing against Pardew and I praise him for what he has achieved at Newcastle. However, the author's lack of knowledge and overall judgement of the situation between AP and NC is clear to see. It p**sses me off that so many people are still jumping on the band wagon and Cortese bashing. Can't people see just what the man is doing with club, the fantastic operations that he has set in place and the ambition and loyalty he has to the job in hand? Clearly not! There just seems to be plain ignorance from people - still!
     
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    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The man doesn't even understand what karma is. If karma was on Pardew's side, he'd be doing great (which he is) whilst we would be suffering. Well, if this is suffering, bring it on. I'm sure Pardew will get a good reception the first time he comes to SMS. We accept he did well, but we've all moved on. I'm sure he doesn't bear us a grudge either.
     
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  8. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    1. I think it was Marcus' money that brought the likes of Lambert and Barnard here, more than Pardew.

    2. We won the JPT, not the FA Cup or the Champions League! Who is to say none of our previous previous managers would have not led us to JPT glory, had they had the chance? But obviously not being in the third tier, they couldn't.

    3. How about mentioning what we've done post-Pardew? For sure, highlight Pardew leading us to a top 10 finish and the JPT. But how about also mentioning Adkins getting us promoted and then instantly taking us to the top of the Championship?
     
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  9. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I think he's implying that Nigel would have done nothing without Pardew's work. Pardew did a good job getting some players in, but Nigel hasn't been sitting on his hands since then.
     
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  10. saintadam1981

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    Yes i'm sure Cortese is cursing the day he sacked Pardew and got a man in that has got the team playing great football and currently sits top of the championship,i bet he lays awake at night wondering what could of been if Pardew stayed,i mean we could of had 11 wins by now under Pardew! what a pathetic piece of writing,someone who writes about something he knows nothing about.I liked Pardew for getting the team winning again but i didn't and still don't really like him as a man,he's very arrogant and loves the limelight,i heard once that he said he was the best looking man in London haha.I'm happy with our Nigel,who is both a great manager and a great bloke!
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I was going to write almost exactly the same thing.

    Yes, we were initially sorry to see Pardew leave, but now we're glad we've got Nigel. And we're glad that we've got Nicola too. Plus, as an extra bonus, Pardew doesn't seem to have come out of it at all badly, and is doing wonderfully well at Newcastle. Everyone wins in this one.
     
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  12. North Hants Saint

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    I've cried every day since Pardew left. Adkins is clearly poo.
     
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  13. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

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    Hmm the author of that original blog clearly likes to cause pointless trouble!

    I'm so gutted that AP has gone! (Sarcasm)
     
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  14. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

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    Newcastle's gain, sure, but you'd be an idiot to say our loss. Adkins has been a hero for us - if anything, Scunny have come out of this the worst.
     
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  15. Saints Fan4Life

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    I can see what they're saying tbf, but adkins has exceeded what pardew would have done - but i will forever remember pardew for laying the foundations, top bloke
     
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  16. rj__02

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    I read the sentence "A little over a year ago Alan Pardew was wandering around the managerial wilderness," and immediately closed the article. It just smells bad.
     
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  17. Jean Bedel Bokassa

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    My misses has a tattoo of pardew on her arse should i be worried?
     
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  18. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    I think a clear case of writing the article and squeezing the facts in later.
     
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  19. Saints Fan4Life

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    to be fair though, he was
     
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  20. sotondawg

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    I think its a fair article, after all its only someone's opinion and we all have different takes on the same thing. Pardew was good for us and I enjoyed the season he was in charge and I wish him well, just not when ever his sides play Saints
     
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