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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Spurf

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    The middle ground always sounds reasonable, one nation and so on but the reality of decision making is not there. Most political questions are by their nature polarized. In the EU or not, tax cuts or not, privatisation or not. The middle ground is privatisation of the NHS by stealth or public private corporations where in effect we pay large corporations and just add to their bank balance. The so called middle ground is the worst of all worlds. However if you are talking about pulling away from the extremes of left and right then I am with you but some changes have to be radical.
    Changing our voting system is radical but it would produce less polarized politics that you might prefer. Scottish Independence is radical but that could also produce less polarisation for Scotland and England.

    The middle ground is where most people and ideas die. To progress you have to chose a side I'm afraid, it's the nature of human beings.
     
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    Yes. None of those are relevant to what Coffey did as what she did doesn't need debate guidance or advice.
    The tweet you quoted clearly assumed she was a practicing medic in which case the BMA could have expelled her.
     
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    He's right about a lot of it, but some of his conclusions are a bit off, in my opinion.
    Conflating Blair and Starmer with Thatcher and Reagan is just silly, for a start.
    We also don't need a push for radical and outlandish ideas, either.

    We've gone massively, ludicrously downhill in a very short space of time.
    The voting public want things to improve, but they're not interested in enormous changes to get it.
    They want stability and progress in their finances and public services.
    They won't vote for what he's calling for.
     
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    Yes they do, because when the Health Secretary is casually admitting to handing out antibiotics as well as calling for GPs to hand out antibiotics like Tic-Tacs, that is very much within the realm of guidance or advice given the advice she is giving is based on her own ignorance and GPs need guidance to ignore her suggestion, just as she needs guidance to find the longest pier to take an even longer walk off of
     
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    We only have until Friday to make use of this...
     
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  6. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    The one single move available to a Labour administration, to ensure stable and hopefully, progressive and sustainable growth, would be to introduce PR. No more minority governments reflecting the interests of a minority of the population. Only then will we have sufficient stability to address the nation's issues, rather than the current system of limping from election to election governed by administrations employing short term policies to enable them to win in 4 or 5 years' time.
     
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    Fridge at the ready...
     
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    Is it just me or should the Lib Dems be doing more to pick up some of this Tory drop-off?
    The Conservative vote for polling really can't go much lower.
    Are their yellow mates being quiet or are the media just not covering them at all?
     
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    I think the casualty of truth and fact is the underlying main problem which in turn promotes an environment for polarisation.

    For example, the EU's approach to the vaccine procurement and rollout would've had zero effect on the UK's excess deaths. This is because whilst in the EU, the UK’s independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had the authority to make the same decisions on their own because EU law already allowed it. In fact we were still under EU Law at the time of the rollout. MHAR themselves confirmed all of this. The Jacob Ress Mogg rhetoric at the time was a complete fabrication.
     
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    I have never advocated that the EU is/was perfect by any means. It is institutionally as vulnerable to corruption as any given administration. However, it was always clear from the outset that UK leaving on the basis of an advisory referendum 'won' by a bare majority of less than 35% of the population, founded on the lies of an extreme political fringe was always going to end in tears.

    The EU needs reform, but the simple fact is that the UK had the best of all membership cards and chose to force themselves out, believing a range of lies about the supposed influence of the EU over UK sovereignty.

    And as regards the vaccine rollout, I think you'll find that was more of a Tortoise & Hare scenario, as the actual final death toll will testify. The UK may have had the access to the vaccine sooner, but the original mismanagement of the Pandemic by Johnson's Gov and the corruption linked to the purchase of PPE etc was directly responsible for the UK topping the death tolls.

    Rant over...<laugh>
     
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    Let me take you away from all this UK stuff.....news from Richmond,Kentucky. Wed. 19thThe lake at White Hall Park will be restocked with 1,500 Rainbow Trout. The public is welcome to come and watch as they restock the lake.Fri.21st Eastern Kentucky University's homecoming (football!) parade will kick off at 6pm.Thuirs.27th Richmond's annual Halloween Hoedown will kick off on Main Street at 6pm.Main Street will be blocked off for the event.Mon.31st Trick r' Treat will take place in Richmond and Berea and the rest of Madison County from 6-8pm.Halloween in the Park will take place at Berea City Park at 6pm.Man charged with car theft allegedly claims he was trying being bitten by a dog. The excitement just goes on and on............!?
     
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    Man charged with car theft allegedly claims he jumped in the car to avoid being bitten by a dog.(Sorry!).
     
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    Larry's had enough
     
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    Quote of the day from Starmer:
    'The lady's not for turning up!'
    <laugh>
     
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    I couldn't agree more with this, but they are likely to win such a landslide that they won't have the foresight to see that the level of support that this catastrophic tory government has handed them is unsustainable.
     
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    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
     
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