Coronavirus

[aberdude]

I generally think that as the virus appears to be less severe as it evolves and other forms of therapeutics are being rolled out, the take up for further vaccines may indeed decline.

Just like the flu jab

 

[pieguts]

Is there something you guys see wrong in this opinion........for me its exactly the situation I want transparency is key and we ain't getting it from the authorities so may I ask again....why not?

The simple answer is, it will take time to collate the necessary information, possibly a number of years, dissect it and get it peer reviewed by the appropriate experts.

 

[pieguts]

Just like the flu jab

The flu jab is constantly evolving and the formula tweaked based on data, so yes.
This is no different to the COVID vaccine. The initial roll out was to prevent death and serious illness, future roll outs will target certain demographics.

 

[aberdude]

No I’m saying it’s a little premature to be making some of the claims, that people like you that seem to believe.
Any vaccine or medicine will come with some associated risks and will affect some in different ways to others. My personal belief is that it’s saved many more than it’s harmed and for 90% of those who have had the vaccines, it’s unlikely that they will suffer any long term issues.

And that's a difference of opinion which is justifiable dude........you got your source of info and I've got mine and that's what a discussion is about it's healthy..........but as we know and see the mainstream outlets are shutting people down as conspiracy freaks for not agreeing is insane especially in science and not only that some very respected doctors in said fields have questioned the official evidence on offer.

Now for me I trust in them that have everything to lose rather than everything to gain......call me ole fashioned like

 

[aberdude]

The flu jab is constantly evolving and the formula tweaked based on data, so yes.
This is no different to the COVID vaccine. The initial roll out was to prevent death and serious illness, future roll outs will target certain demographics.

Not sure if you noticed but we failed

 

[pieguts]

Not sure if you noticed but we failed

What is your measure of failure?

 

[aberdude]

The simple answer is, it will take time to collate the necessary information, possibly a number of years, dissect it and get it peer reviewed by the appropriate experts.

Yep that's usually done under trial times though so a bit of a risk hey

 

[aberdude]

What is your measure of failure?

The 5th highest death rate in the world is not a good thing hey ......no champs league....more chumps league

 

[pieguts]

Yep that's usually done under trial times though so a bit of a risk hey

I don’t agree with this. Most of the high profile cases have come many years after vaccines / medicines were introduced, which is the same as mistakes in life. Asbestos was considered the building material of the future, smoking was promoted as healthy and men were even encouraged to smother there balls in talcum powder. It took many years to understand the risks.

 

[pieguts]

The 5th highest death rate in the world is not a good thing hey ......no champs league....more chumps league

But you’ve constantly posted that you believe the illness is a hoax. How many of those deaths occurred before the vaccine roll out?

 

[aberdude]

I don’t agree with this. Most of the high profile cases have come many years after vaccines / medicines were introduced, which is the same as mistakes in life. Asbestos was considered the building material of the future, smoking was promoted as healthy and men were even encouraged to smother there balls in talcum powder. It took many years to understand the risks.

I wonder why all these cases took years to come to light hey........agree or not.....I smell a fking rat when it comes to big business and lawsuits over health claims.......crafty ****s shifted that cost onto us though this time ........jobs a good un

 

[pieguts]

I wonder why all these cases took years to come to light hey........agree or not.....I smell a fking rat when it comes to big business and lawsuits over health claims.......crafty ****s shifted that cost onto us though this time ........jobs a good un

I think for some like asbestos and smoking, it required years before 2 and 2 were put together as both of these can be a ticking time bombs. For others like the recent talcum powder revelations I do believe that the chemists for these large organisations knew more than they let on.
It appears where we wont agree is that you chose to mistrust all pharma, where I think they get more right than wrong.

 

[aberdude]

But you’ve constantly posted that you believe the illness is a hoax. How many of those deaths occurred before the vaccine roll out?

Most of em died in care homes because they over scored the impossible low target......lots of people went in for other illnesses and forced into a test covid test however weak a result it gave which then determined whether patient had treatment for say example kidney failure in correct department or skip treatment for kidney failure even though dying of it and treat em for covid.....the non resuscitate policy didn't give anyone a second chance......it was a mess from top to bottom and I'm sure you can see how figures were inflated with just a few examples of you can create a monster out of thin air

 

[aberdude]

I think for some like asbestos and smoking, it required years before 2 and 2 were put together as both of these can be a ticking time bombs. For others like the recent talcum powder revelations I do believe that the chemists for these large organisations knew more than they let on.
It appears where we wont agree is that you chose to mistrust all pharma, where I think they get more right than wrong.

That's where you are going wrong about me I'm not against big pharma but I definitely don't trust em enough 2 take a rushed through new style vaccine from what I've seen over the years.....if they did the right thing for humanity's sake all the time I'd have no problem but you know as I know money outweighs principles these days and I smelt the rat pretty quickly on this false flag.......fk me first lot we were seeing were dropping dead on the streets bleeding from the mouth in wuham then Italy then Iran.......we all know that's not the symptoms so why the fake news images from the mainstream

 

[pieguts]

Most of em died in care homes because they over scored the impossible low target......lots of people went in for other illnesses and forced into a test covid test however weak a result it gave which then determined whether patient had treatment for say example kidney failure in correct department or skip treatment for kidney failure even though dying of it and treat em for covid.....the non resuscitate policy didn't give anyone a second chance......it was a mess from top to bottom and I'm sure you can see how figures were inflated with just a few examples of you can create a monster out of thin air

It comes down to whether you believe the figures were artificially inflated on purpose or was there a genuine lack of understanding. Where I struggle with the deliberate, is that it was a global pandemic. This is where I think reasoned debate goes out of the window with some of the conspiracy whack jobs.

 

[aberdude]

It comes down to whether you believe the figures were artificially inflated on purpose or was there a genuine lack of understanding. Where I struggle with the deliberate, is that it was a global pandemic. This is where I think reasoned debate goes out of the window with some of the conspiracy whack jobs.

You were doing well until the last bit.....that is where the debate finishes because you won't listen to the rest.......tell how wide do you think the top of the pyramid is

 

[pieguts]

You were doing well until the last bit.....that is where the debate finishes because you won't listen to the rest.......tell how wide do you think the top of the pyramid is

Mate as an engineer I generally deal in demonstrably facts, unfortunately what I see posted from some cannot be backed up with fact.
Do I think the top 1% of the wealthy are far too influential and can bring governments down, absolutely. Do I think the worlds media are just as bad…yep.
What I’m yet to see is proof of what value, to the 1%, a global pandemic which affected just about every region in the world achieved. I could even understand targeted attacks on the most wealthy and influential nations, but what does wiping out poorer nations achieve. You would think the 1% would be looking to protect those?

 

[aberdude]

Mate as an engineer I generally deal in demonstrably facts, unfortunately what I see posted from some cannot be backed up with fact.

So you class religious peoples has what exactly.............by the way I've got some great work by the world's leading engineers who claim inside job with twin tower evidence......take a look at them and tell me they are wrong after being right all the careers.........engineers and architects for 9/11 truth

 

[Quesadaad]

And that's a

Not all illnesses will be connected but some people called this a while back and its becoming a ting........old illnesses flaring up after years of it being dormant.......tumours that were shrinking are now turning aggressive...blood clots pandemic etc ........u guys can bury thy heads but many of the rest of us won't stop pointing in the direction of I told you so.......now ban this fking substance until gold standards are applied as they do with every drug that gets put into the wider public domain

Who would apply this ‘gold standard’ that you are asking for?
Why should we trust them, if you seriously think that they’ve created a Covid hoax which has crippled 99% of the planet?

I mean ****in hell

 

[aberdude]

Who would apply this ‘gold standard’ that you are asking for?
Why should we trust them, if you seriously think that they’ve created a Covid hoax which has crippled 99% of the planet?

I mean ****in hell

Its usually independent and transparent