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You didn't answer the question at all and simply offered a total fantasy instead.
Not a bad summation of your theistic position, as it happens.

I actually agree with you about the Spurs crest.
I mentioned it to someone the other day.
Only needs a minor adjustment really, but it's still a little off.
Most people probably don't really think about it though, I guess.

Man Utd's crest has a representation of the manifestation of evil on it.
Quite appropriate really, but I'd have thought that it was a little worrying for someone like yourself.
Don't forget to kiss the devil when you score a goal, eh?

your beliefs are based on assumption and daily mail. if you were a true believer in science you would always go to the source for clarification

most people dont think about it huh? obviously you do when it comes to me. you need to fix your own beliefs. how can you justify animal cruelty?

do you believe the devil looks like that?
 
thefanwithnoname:1591433 said:
Fixed that for you. <ok>

I have looked in to all the major religions and found them all to be horse ****. What is your problem with only.reading portions of a religious.price? Have you read any of them cover to cover? They are deliberately not intended to be read in such a manner as this highlights how much of them are lies.

the more I read the more i was able seperate the crap from the reality

eg did you know celibacy is NOT a must in catholicism

and how do you propose to have a 'faith' if you havent looked at what exists in as much detail as you can?

Celibacy is an invention.of the church rather than any part of the bible. I have looked in to each enough to deduce it is not something I wish to be associated with. Faith is for those who lack proof. I would rather have proof than faith.

Why is it so important to you that everyone agrees with you.
 
your beliefs are based on assumption and daily mail. if you were a true believer in science you would always go to the source for clarification

most people dont think about it huh? obviously you do when it comes to me. you need to fix your own beliefs. how can you justify animal cruelty?

do you believe the devil looks like that?

My beliefs about Choudary are based upon things that he's said himself in interviews.
He openly supports terrorism and Sharia and doesn't do any real work.
He's a hypocritical ****bag.

When I said most people, I clearly wasn't referring to myself, as I'd said that I'd thought about it.
I don't justify animal cruelty.
How do you justify believing that adulterers should be stoned to death and supporting Man Utd?

I don't believe that the devil exists, so I clearly don't believe that he looks like anything.
You do, though.
The image on the Man Utd badge is supposed to be the devil.
You support a club that's owned by American capitalists and that glorifies the devil.
 
Celibacy is an invention.of the church rather than any part of the bible. I have looked in to each enough to deduce it is not something I wish to be associated with. Faith is for those who lack proof. I would rather have proof than faith.

Why is it so important to you that everyone agrees with you.

it really isnt.
I just object to being asked for proof of this that and the other and none being provided, as evidenced in this thread

I think faith is for those who are not shy of accepting responsibility
as i see it there is no credible alternative to a creator
 
My beliefs about Choudary are based upon things that he's said himself in interviews.
He openly supports terrorism and Sharia and doesn't do any real work.
He's a hypocritical ****bag.

When I said most people, I clearly wasn't referring to myself, as I'd said that I'd thought about it.
I don't justify animal cruelty.
How do you justify believing that adulterers should be stoned to death and supporting Man Utd?

I don't believe that the devil exists, so I clearly don't believe that he looks like anything.
You do, though.
The image on the Man Utd badge is supposed to be the devil.
You support a club that's owned by American capitalists and that glorifies the devil.

so why you scared to ask him directly. clarify if you will?

I dont
it isnt
it isnt
 
so why you scared to ask him directly. clarify if you will?

I dont
it isnt
it isnt

I don't need to clarify anything about his beliefs.
He's made himself quite clear.

You don't justify your belief that half of the team that you support should be stoned to death?
Fair enough. Strange admission.

The image on the Man Utd badge isn't supposed to be the devil?
Yes it is.
The team's nickname should've suggested that to you.
 
I don't need to clarify anything about his beliefs.
He's made himself quite clear.

You don't justify your belief that half of the team that you support should be stoned to death?
Fair enough. Strange admission.

The image on the Man Utd badge isn't supposed to be the devil?
Yes it is.
The team's nickname should've suggested that to you.

been through this

your views are based on daily mail etc. you had the opportunity to clarify and bottled it

been through the rest too. only proves you know **** all

let me know when you have the balls to back up your convictions/beliefs
 
I don't need to clarify anything about his beliefs.
He's made himself quite clear.

You don't justify your belief that half of the team that you support should be stoned to death?
Fair enough. Strange admission.

The image on the Man Utd badge isn't supposed to be the devil?
Yes it is.
The team's nickname should've suggested that to you.

Hey, at least Arsenal's badge is nice, simple and unambiguous. it's just a large cannon. I assume it doesn't carry any hidden meanings etc.
 
Just so I can clear this up, celibacy in ordained priests is partly to do with the belief that Jesus was celibate (the priest represents Jesus during the Eucharist) and partly because a priest shouldn't have distractions like a wife after devoting their life to God.
 
been through this

your views are based on daily mail etc. you had the opportunity to clarify and bottled it

been through the rest too. only proves you know **** all

let me know when you have the balls to back up your convictions/beliefs

Yes, we have been through this.
My views are based upon things that I've seen Choudary say in interviews.
You run away from any question that shows that you're talking **** and claim that the other person is deflecting.
Cowardly and pathetic.
 
I think faith is for those who are not shy of accepting responsibility
as i see it there is no credible alternative to a creator,

Evolution Evolution Evolution. if you had your own brain, instead of the one that has been indoctrinated into you, you would be able to see. I feel sorry for you my friend
 
I think faith is for those who are not shy of accepting responsibility
as i see it there is no credible alternative to a creator,

Evolution Evolution Evolution. if you had your own brain, instead of the one that has been indoctrinated into you, you would be able to see. I feel sorry for you my friend

I don't see how a single "creator" could operate. What mean spirited ****er makes half the world hugely impoverished? I see evolution as the answer to the beginnings of our universe.
 
Yes, we have been through this.
My views are based upon things that I've seen Choudary say in interviews.
You run away from any question that shows that you're talking **** and claim that the other person is deflecting.
Cowardly and pathetic.

back to this again i see

what would be the point in answering if you have reached a conclusion already? as you have with anjem
you obviously dont have the conviction to follow through with your assumptions and assertions

you are a pussy