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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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Peej said:
the side effect of a vaccine, has it gone higher than the death rate. Need 1,000,001 just in USA.

weird innit
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You don't get it do you....death numbers inflated for covid not by covid.

Same people covering up the vaccine death and serious side effect figures.......now go figure why that would be in their interests and not ours.....so not weird at all hey.
 
aberdude said:
If you hadn't noticed in the wide awake club......but free speech is being shut down faster than Boris closes his fridge door behind him
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I'd argue free speech in Britain doesn't really exist. It's been government controlled for a long time.

Take hate speech. Obviously a bad and scummy thing to do but if you can't say hate speech, you don't have free speech... shouldn't be illegal. Should be shunned and frowned upon but illegal... No.
 
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Blue and Yellow Potato said:
I'd argue free speech in Britain doesn't really exist. It's been government controlled for a long time.

Take hate speech. Obviously a bad and scummy thing to do but if you can't say hate speech, you don't have free speech... shouldn't be illegal. Should be shunned and frowned upon but illegal... No.
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Correct it's what it says on the tin.....if not then its false advertisement by government and total dilution by the public who are known to be very fking gullible <laugh>
 
aberdude said:
Correct it's what it says on the tin.....if not then its false advertisement by government and total dilution by the public who are known to be very fking gullible <laugh>
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Definitely in agreement. Free speech isn't just the right to say nice positive things. It's the right to say objectionable, controversial, and sometimes harmful things.

Britain isn't in danger of losing democracy anytime soon... But tools like "hate speech" and "no noisy or annoying protests" could be twisted by the wrong actors to make democracy less fair. They haven't been yet perhaps, but they are tools an authoritarian leader could use to cement power.
 
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I think free speech is the least of people's worries. The digital age is now in full flow, and I feel sometime in the future, people will live to regret this and it will not just be a simple matter of turning off your phone to stop you being tracked.

I've not seen anyone consider the recent actions by the government of making everyone in the country, £200 in debt, just because a political party give it the ok. It's like if you fall in the category of being entitled to recent money of £150 via the council tax, where everyones bank details are automatically processed to pay it.

What the government has demonstrated by the above two actions and I think it's the first time in my living memory, that the government have proven they can take total control of your finances credits and debits (on mass) - what I ask is where is this leading to. Well we've already seen potential in Canada, where it was alleged they were going to freeze the bank accounts of any protesting citizens.

Big Brother is already here, free speech will be kicked into oblivion with what the future will hold...will it be a good thing, or bad, suppose it depends how much your governing authority wishes to become a dictator or seek global control, the latter being where the monetary system is going, via cashless.
 
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brb said:
I think free speech is the least of people's worries. The digital age is now in full flow, and I feel sometime in the future, people will live to regret this.
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I think where we're heading eventually is authoritarian rule by AI. Probably not for 50 years at least, but it's coming. Think China only with a super computer calling the shots.

Communism failed in part because no motivation to work and in part because the economy is too complex to be microcontrolled by a government.

A computer can handle the complexities... Track our every movement and not pay us if we slack off better than a human manager can. Eventually, human run governments will not be able to compete with computer run ones and we'll all have to switch not to be left behind.

I'm not talking about evil scifi AI with personality and human killing agendas... Just AI directing what the economy does, what laws should be implemented, etc. Completely impassionate, not evil, but not sentimental either. It won't just know everything you do, but will be actively judging you non stop
 
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Blue and Yellow Potato said:
Definitely in agreement. Free speech isn't just the right to say nice positive things. It's the right to say objectionable, controversial, and sometimes harmful things.

Britain isn't in danger of losing democracy anytime soon... But tools like "hate speech" and "no noisy or annoying protests" could be twisted by the wrong actors to make democracy less fair. They haven't been yet perhaps, but they are tools an authoritarian leader could use to cement power.
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They are already here dude for sure, they've hijacked politics and got all bases covered this is a tip toe in totalitarianism some are ignoring the steps being taken yet one its gone past the point of being able to rebel in fear of the brown shirts turning up at your door to fk your wife and kids exile they beat you to within an inch of death....if your lucky.
 
This guy got some great books......and in my opinion hits the nail on the head......debate is a must in a free society

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We are all part of something, but no one knows what, unless it's all nowt more than a void dark mass with no purpose.
 
I've never ever expected to find anything within our reach, past or present. Just knowing what it took for the Earth to form, and the power struggle of the various planets, Jupiter v Ceres, then Saturn v Jupiter, for Earth to be created, should tell you all you need to know. We will have to look much further afield to find the answers we are looking for. At the moment it's merely a stepping process, planet hopping in it's earliest infancy, and if we don't survive that process, no one will ever have known we was here and it's back to square one again for the building blocks of life.
 
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brb said:
I've never ever expected to find anything within our reach, past or present. Just knowing what it took for the Earth to form, and the power struggle of the various planets, Jupiter v Ceres, then Saturn v Jupiter, for Earth to be created, should tell you all you need to know. We will have to look much further afield to find the answers we are looking for. At the moment it's merely a stepping process, planet hopping in it's earliest infancy, and if we don't survive that process, no one will ever have known we was here and it's back to square one again for the building blocks of life.
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I watched a programme about the chances of life elsewhere in the Universe and the extraordinary events that brought the Earth to how it is .
It's incredible .
It mentions aminos that are essential to life forming . Scientists have been trying to create just the slightest spark if life by mixing them. Since 1956 .
Absolutely no signs whatsoever .
On top of that what kind of timeline would any other life bearing Planet be on bearing in mind we've only had land based life for 250 million years or so .
We are probably unique
 
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