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Yeah that was before basic human rights and "civil" civilisation.

We dont need to go back to that, but we can do much better than what we have now mate.

Which is MPs who get all kinds of monetary benefits from being in politics from expenses to 2nd and 3rd jobs which in many cases are a conflict of interests.

The system has been rigged for so long for those who are involved in it mate.

I dont pretend to have an alternative I'm not that guy. But perhaps change the whole conflict of interest thing from the core, by that I mean don't pay MPs 80k a year, pay them the average wage and then maybe bonuses based on fulfilling manifesto promises for example?

How about we make it against the law for MPs to have 2nd jobs.

Get rid of most of the things they can claim expenses for currently. It's a fuking piss take if not a bare faced insult.

Then you may find the caliber of people who chose to go into politics aren't a bunch of blood sucking public shool ****s who thing 90% of the people they are supposed to serve are scum who can freeze and starve.

Maybe the people who go I to that kind of politics actually ate genuinely caring people who want to do good things for other people and their communities.

But nah thats crazy right ?


That's supposed to be the Labour party.

If they could find an actual proper labour leader with an actual manifesto they should clean up in the current environment.
 
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People who don't vote then moan about it is a bit baffling .

So you expect us to pick the best of the bad bunch....... fk sake fella....so what exactly do you think voting one puppet in over another will achieve apart from what you have created currently by excepting a promise you know will never happen......you are hoodwinked by an illusion dude
 
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So you expect us to pick the best of the bad bunch....... fk sake fella....so what exactly do you think voting one puppet in over another will achieve apart from what you have created currently by excepting a promise you know will never happen......you are hoodwinked by an illusion dude
Like I said don't vote don't moan .
You are doing exactly that by not voting Innit Dude
 
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<laugh> says the bloke from Merthyr!

Irony alert.


*it's Wind Street*

Aberdare you daft twat......oh I agree the valleys are a bit but still truth must be known that Swansea is a slum......or as some put it a pretty ****ty city......now pass that sticky sticky
 
Back in your know it all ,elite style I know everything and everybody else is a thick sheeple attitude I see .

What is it you don't get that people have opinions.....doesn't mean I think I'm brighter just means I think you dont see for reasons other than what normal would class as intelligence.....surely it's not a problem if I mock you and the likes for not seeing what lots of people see with me.

I just post stuff for people to be aware there is an alternative to the current never-ending amusement ride and if you don't see what I'm saying is true then maybe the penny will drop as you see it never get better under your fake democracy that works for big business interests and not ours........that's all parties even the greens and plaid cymru
 
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What is it you don't get that people have opinions.....doesn't mean I think I'm brighter just means I think you dont see for reasons other than what normal would class as intelligence.....surely it's not a problem if I mock you and the likes for not seeing what lots of people see with me.

I just post stuff for people to be aware there is an alternative to the current never-ending amusement ride and if you don't see what I'm saying is true then maybe the penny will drop as you see it never get better under your fake democracy that works for big business interests and not ours........that's all parties even the greens and plaid cymru
That's my point people know all this stuff but the way you post you'd think we don't .
Don't get me wrong there's one or 2 that don't get it but telling me I don't get it bearing in mind I have this discussion/arguement with friends and family all the time is laughable .
 
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Aberdare you daft twat......oh I agree the valleys are a bit but still truth must be known that Swansea is a slum......or as some put it a pretty ****ty city......now pass that sticky sticky

I don't live in Swansea though dude.

Just like you don't live in Merthyr.

Say good morning to the point.
 
I'm trying to understand what people think, that not voting achieves?

In countries where people's views have been surpressed, it's normally followed by a dictatorship and quite often mass genocide. As those with the power of strength execute those who wish to live their lives differently and often in peace.

Who would you give the power to, the same as other countries, the military or the police, maybe a combination of both which means you either get battered or shot, if you don't agree with those rulers.

Maybe you want the people as a whole to take control, well that would work out well, when big decisions need making and would no doubt end up in civil war.

These people that are saying no one should vote, are they all there in the head, sounds like they need locking up in Dartmoor to me.

Oh btw I nearly forgot to mention, women never use to be able to vote, that worked out well!
 
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That's my point people know all this stuff but the way you post you'd think we don't .
Don't get me wrong there's one or 2 that don't get it but telling me I don't get it bearing in mind I have this discussion/arguement with friends and family all the time is laughable .

I can make a guess from what im reading from you, that you think your open to critical thought and in the know of how the machine is working and I can tell you by voting for its continuation of keeping it in place that you are most definitely not open to all evidence on show because all the evidence will show you democracy is meaningless when it's being run by them not voted for in the first place ie corporations lobbyists and funds win I'm afraid.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for a democracy that is run by the people for the people but that isn't the case dude......latest voting figures suggest I'm right with some area's only having 12% turn out, people have given up yet the small voting minority like yourself think you can change things lol........maybe a history lesson will show u your place in British societies class system.....its always for the few and not the many
 
I can make a guess from what im reading from you, that you think your open to critical thought and in the know of how the machine is working and I can tell you by voting for its continuation of keeping it in place that you are most definitely not open to all evidence on show because all the evidence will show you democracy is meaningless when it's being run by them not voted for in the first place ie corporations lobbyists and funds win I'm afraid.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for a democracy that is run by the people for the people but that isn't the case dude......latest voting figures suggest I'm right with some area's only having 12% turn out, people have given up yet the small voting minority like yourself think you can change things lol........maybe a history lesson will show u your place in British societies class system.....its always for the few and not the many
Guess what take your last 9 words yeah ?
We ****ing know this .
You are never going to get the system you crave because of the greed of man and it isn't a new thing .
It existed before we even had any tangible currency
 
I'm trying to understand what people think, that not voting achieves?

In countries where people's views have been surpressed, it's normally followed by a dictatorship and quite often mass genocide. As those with the power of strength execute those who wish to live their lives differently and often in peace.

Who would you give the power to, the same as other countries, the military or the police, maybe a combination of both which means you either get battered or shot, if you don't agree with those rulers.

Maybe you want the people as a whole to take control, well that would work out well, when big decisions need making and would no doubt end up in civil war.

These people that are saying no one should vote, are they all there in the head, sounds like they need locking up in Dartmoor to me.

Oh btw I nearly forgot to mention, women never use to be able to vote, that worked out well!

That's your perception and nothing more......the system needs you to keep thinking that way and instill that same perception into your children's heads.....its just a ride until you get off
 
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Guess what take your last 9 words yeah ?
We ****ing know this .
You are never going to get the system you crave because of the greed of man and it isn't a new thing .
It existed before we even had any tangible currency

So you understand that yet want it to continue....ffs really you into self harm or what.....do you realise we just all gotta say no more and we can change the future that history has taught us in being oppression for the many and luxury for the few.....we can change for the better ffs and not continue doing the same thing over and fking over again.
 
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West side mate, Mumbles. Nice and snooty, you'd love it.

I know a good place too, right on the seafront.

Full of blue hair brigade and mobility scooters for my liking...........but yeah without that dying people view everyday it would be nice in the summer....even spent many a weekends 9n the piss there myself over the years.......Port Talbot Steel works are a bit fuggly and all mind so not alls well init in the retirement park
 
Full of blue hair brigade and mobility scooters for my liking...........but yeah without that dying people view everyday it would be nice in the summer....even spent many a weekends 9n the piss there myself over the years.......Port Talbot Steel works are a bit fuggly and all mind so not alls well init in the retirement park

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Long time since you've been down there then dude.

It's fair to say, it's changed. Although the steel works is till across the bay of course.
 
I'm trying to understand what people think, that not voting achieves?

In countries where people's views have been surpressed, it's normally followed by a dictatorship and quite often mass genocide. As those with the power of strength execute those who wish to live their lives differently and often in peace.

Who would you give the power to, the same as other countries, the military or the police, maybe a combination of both which means you either get battered or shot, if you don't agree with those rulers.

Maybe you want the people as a whole to take control, well that would work out well, when big decisions need making and would no doubt end up in civil war.

These people that are saying no one should vote, are they all there in the head, sounds like they need locking up in Dartmoor to me.

Oh btw I nearly forgot to mention, women never use to be able to vote, that worked out well!
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Pretty much sums it up .
What Aber fails to understand is that the kind of world he proposes sounds very much like Communism .
The same thing where as you say , you apposed you die and the hierarchy live in luxury .
It's a lot worse life than in capitalust society .
At least we have free speech
 
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