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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I do my bit by paying a ridiculous marginal tax rate for **** all return.

So your bins don’t get emptied, your house fire doesn't get put out and you don’t get an ambulance when you’re sick (with a jolly chap like me in it)…….?

Shame on you Bracknell…..I’m quite shocked at your attitude. More akin to Thatcher than Bevin
 
To be fair to stainesy and west, i think hes expecting more from our tax and of course our country shouldn't be taking the piss.

At the same time, i see that we pay less tax than all the really nice socialist countries and it makes sense we have a worser experience than them.

Likewise we pay a lot more than the u.s.a and our state help is far better.
 
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So your bins don’t get emptied, your house fire doesn't get put out and you don’t get an ambulance when you’re sick (with a jolly chap like me in it)…….?

Shame on you Bracknell…..I’m quite shocked at your attitude. More akin to Thatcher than Bevin

Thatcher would have at least brought the marginal tax rate down in return for sub-standard public services and making life harder for the worst off.
 
To be fair to stainesy and west, i think hes expecting more from our tax and of course our country shouldn't be taking the piss.

At the same time, i see that we pay less tax than all the really nice socialist countries and it makes sense we have a worser experience than them.

Likewise we pay a lot more than the u.s.a and our state help is far better.

The problem is Bobby, we need a government who is willing to actively close loopholes of tax avoidance and to tax the rich more than they currently do now. Sadly Labour, in my opinion, would be just as bad as would look after their rich friends and donors. This guff about the rich leaving for elsewhere is in fact unproven and I would be willing to take a chance of that not happening
A start would be a windfall tax on the super rich.
 
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The problem is Bobby, we need a government who is willing to actively close loopholes of tax avoidance and to tax the rich more than they currently do now. Sadly Labour, in my opinion, would be just as bad as would look after their rich friends and donors. This guff about the rich leaving for elsewhere is in fact unproven and I would be willing to take a chance of that not happening
A start would be a windfall tax on the super rich.

We need an electorate that's prepared to vote for a government that's willing to re-distribute wealth via taxation. We don't have one.

Instead, the people that would benefit from such re-distribution were perfectly happy in 2019 to vote for a party that would make them even poorer because they wanted to 'get Brexit done'.
 
We need an electorate that's prepared to vote for a government that's willing to re-distribute wealth via taxation. We don't have one.

Instead, the people that would benefit from such re-distribution were perfectly happy in 2019 to vote for a party that would make them even poorer because they wanted to 'get Brexit done'.

So now it’s the electorates fault ? Interesting concept Strolls. If Labour would have actually had policies aimed towards working people, gone against the Neo-Liberal EU (instead of having no direction) and abandoned their policy of identity politics….then maybe people wouldn’t have abandoned them in droves.

Well the ones they haven’t kicked out of the party anyway for being too “Left Wing”.

Labour have no one to blame for their demise but themselves….
 
So now it’s the electorates fault ? Interesting concept Strolls. If Labour would have actually had policies aimed towards working people, gone against the Neo-Liberal EU (instead of having no direction) and abandoned their policy of identity politics….then maybe people wouldn’t have abandoned them in droves.

Well the ones they haven’t kicked out of the party anyway for being too “Left Wing”.

Labour have no one to blame for their demise but themselves….

If they’d just told people what they wanted to hear it might not have been quite such an embarrassing defeat. The fools.
 
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So now it’s the electorates fault ? Interesting concept Strolls. If Labour would have actually had policies aimed towards working people, gone against the Neo-Liberal EU (instead of having no direction) and abandoned their policy of identity politics….then maybe people wouldn’t have abandoned them in droves.

Well the ones they haven’t kicked out of the party anyway for being too “Left Wing”.

Labour have no one to blame for their demise but themselves….

The working class electorate was gullible and it was fooled into voting against its own interests.
 
Gullible…stupid…..gammon….pearl clutchers…..you wonder why people abandoned Labour like they did ?
You neo-liberals destroyed the support and will take years to get back

Is it because the alternative told them what they wanted to hear?

I totally get the theory that Labour have somehow lost the working class, what with all their policies that could have helped the working class. I don’t get how the alternative is in any way better let alone blatantly obviously much worse.
 
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