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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Milk..

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    JK is not allowed to leave until he has lived in Liverpool long enough to have a Scouse accent.
     
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  2. Zanjinho

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    ...to Gerrard?
     
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  3. Milk..

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    To Elliot, 30 years from now.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Course he would.

    He promised his wife.

    He would be 56 in 2024 though. So he's be able for another stint if he felt like it bit then again as a multi multi millionaire he could party from now til his dotage and would you begrudge him that.

    I'd rather be that than boring Hodgson at 74 crawling into palace from his apartment with nothing better to do
     
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  5. Zanjinho

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    That's a long stint for Gerrard...
     
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  6. saintanton

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    Perhaps we could persuade him to carry on until 60 - that seems a decent age to retire? :)
    In reality it's down to him - when faced with the real prospect of giving up the game will he feel he'd miss it too much?
    Hopefully if he's still enjoying it he might like to give it "a bit longer", but who knows.
    I doubt the multi-millionaire thing is very relevant - most top level players nowadays end their playing careers doshed up to the eyeballs but carry on in some capacity or other because they can't let it go.
    Of course this could all be wishful thinking on my part and if he decides to go it should be with our blessing - he is the single best thing to happen to us for a long time.
     
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  7. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    LIVERPOOL SQUAD IN DEPTH FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

    STARTING WITH FIRST X1

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    That’s obviously a rough XI but one you’d expect to win most Premier League games. Go a little deeper, though, and you see that Liverpool look incredibly strong in every area right now.
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Depth is definitely looking a lot better now but we can expect to see more injuries as we have injury prone players.

    Getting Diaz out of the way now (and hopefully Carvalho soon), we can focus our attention on getting a midfielder in summer. Someone who can become the next Fab and/or cover the LCM role.
     
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  9. Mark Blow

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    No thanks, I’d rather have Roy Hodgson back as manager than Gerrard.
     
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  10. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Second coming of Roy Hodgson is going to be a disaster he will probably relegate Liverpool.
     
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  11. jaffaSlot

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    Elliot is more suited to attacking midfield role and that's where he was deployed this season. Where Henderson is currently showing how to make a meal of that role
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Yep Elliot in the RCM role was doing really good (small sample size). He doesn't have the speed to play in a wide position in the front 3.
     
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  13. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Extract from the Athletic re. Carvalho transfer:

    Why did Monday’s talks drag on so long? Fulham drove a hard bargain. Liverpool’s offer of £5 million, as well as loaning him back until May, was rejected. Finally, late in the day, the two clubs agreed on a fee potentially rising to £8 million with add-ons as well as a sell-on clause.

    It was only then that Liverpool were given the green light to speak directly to the player. Carvalho, who has scored seven goals and contributed four assists in 18 Championship games this season, was eagerly awaiting the opportunity to discuss with Klopp where he would fit into his plans.

    The Premier League gives clubs an extra two hours to submit all the necessary paperwork if they send a deal sheet before the 11pm deadline confirming that an agreement is in place. However, that flexibility doesn’t apply to transfers involving EFL clubs.

    They had been desperate to get the transfer completed before the deadline to outflank an array of rivals across Europe for Carvalho’s signature. Liverpool also wanted to avoid the prospect of a tribunal deciding on the fee after he leaves Fulham this summer.

    As Carvalho, who rejected a new contract in November, is under the age of 24, Fulham are entitled to compensation for his development during his seven years on their books.

    Another English club would either have to agree a figure with Fulham or go to a tribunal. However, the Londoners would be entitled to less than £500,000 in compensation under FIFA rules if he moved to a club overseas this summer. That nominal fee is one of the reasons he’s attracted interest from the likes of Barcelona, Borussia Dortmund, Benfica, Sevilla, Monaco and AC Milan.

    As a result, it’s not only Liverpool who could miss out as a result of Monday’s deal collapsing. But for Fulham, any financial hit on Carvalho is viewed by them as small fry compared to the riches on offer if they can successfully win promotion.
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    All parties could agree on a deal for the summer that ensures a tribunal isn’t required. However, it remains to be seen if either Fulham or the player’s representatives seek to re-negotiate terms. Carvalho’s representation situation is complicated. He has been represented by family members this month since parting company with Unique Sports Management but, while they handle his representation, around them have been different agents trying to broker deals, including for the move to Liverpool. The Athletic has been told that the complexities of his representation have up to now discouraged some clubs from advancing their interest.

    If it goes to a tribunal, then the agreement reached between the clubs on Monday night would be taken into account as that sets a precedent for his valuation.

    The biggest danger for Liverpool is that Carvalho decides to choose a counter offer. Unless a compensation package is officially agreed with Fulham, Liverpool and other Premier League clubs can only speak to Carvalho about a pre-contract agreement after the third Saturday in May, but clubs overseas can make an approach at any point during the final six months of his present deal.

    Relations between Liverpool and Fulham have improved since the tension created by Elliott’s move to Merseyside in 2019. Back then, Liverpool’s initial offer of £850,000 plus add-ons was described as “insulting”. Fulham wanted a guaranteed £10 million plus add-ons for one of their biggest assets. A tribunal ultimately ruled that Liverpool had to pay £1.7 million, rising to £4.3 million if he plays more than 100 games for Liverpool and gets a senior England cap. There is also a 20 per cent sell-on clause.

    Elliott and Carvalho played youth football together at Fulham and they remain friends. Elliott always sends Carvalho a message congratulating him when he has scored. The prospect of them being reunited is something they would both relish.

    Liverpool sold Harry Wilson to Fulham last summer and agreed not to receive any of the £12 million fee until 2022 in order to help the Londoners satisfy financial fair play rules.

    Late on Monday night, Liverpool right-back Neco Williams moved on loan to Craven Cottage until the end of the season. It was never part of the Carvalho deal but another sign of the clubs helping each other out. Interestingly, unlike the deal that took Nat Phillips to Bournemouth until the end of the season, Fulham did not pay a loan fee for Williams.

    Liverpool will hope that leads to Carvalho belatedly becoming a Liverpool player. A lot of groundwork has been put in but Monday’s late frustration means that the door remains ajar for others to take advantage.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    elliott at RCM in first team. Second team put Ox at RW, remove milner and put henderson or even keita at no 6... or morton.

    It hints at the lack of balance in the midfield.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It'll be interesting to see what we do here.
     
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  17. Tiresias

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    Did you ever watch us under Hodgeson? Absolute dire boring football, would rather take Gerrard with his passion than that ****wit owl.
     
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  18. jaffaSlot

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    I not606 XI could probably play more exciting football.

    Hodgson was awful in style, but also ambitions.
     
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  19. johnsonsbaby

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    As complicated as it all sounds, if he wants to play for Klopp as has been reported, he will come to us no matter who his other suitors are. If he chooses not to come to us, then he didn't really want to come to us and it will be his loss. Klopp wants players who want to be here and so do I.
     
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  20. saintanton

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    I wouldn't worry about it - I think there's little danger of the mouse-botherer ever getting back in here.
     
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