Off Topic The Politics Thread

[bobmid]

Im hearing Ivan Drago is going to the front line

Shevchenko is a free agent too but is after too much money to fight

 

[Hoop-Leif]

I read somewhere that Putin's popularity is dropping so he needs to start a fight to keep any sort of opposition at bay

Does he have any opposition?

 

[Willhoops]

Im not too sure this time…….think he feels pretty empowered at the moment and is gonna see this as an opportunity to get back a bit of territory. From what I’m reading and the troop build up, seems that an invasion is imminent. I’m also hearing on good authority that certain sections of the armed forces are on 5 day notice to travel to Ukraine (though possibly this is just a routine thing)
It’s all gonna be about how the West reacted to an invasion….do we leave the Ukrainians to there fate or do we protect them to the hilt ? Either way ain’t gonna be good.

You could well be right it’s something he’s been posturing with for years, now might be the right time for him to step up.

should the rest of the world interfere? Yeah .. in theory, Putin shouldn’t be able to just annex another nation… but as we both know it’s not that simple, who knows what would happen off the back of it.

 

[bobmid]

My pal is always russian , never on time for anything. I dont have a ukranian friend

 

[Willhoops]

Does he have any opposition?

If he does they won’t be alive much longer

 

[Hoop-Leif]

On Ukraine… I don’t think Russia will attack from what they have been saying.

You dont normally deploy 100,000 troops on a border for a jolly.

If it is a jolly, could we send Boris?

 

[bobmid]

You dont normally deploy 100,000 troops on a border for a jolly.

If it is a jolly, could we send Boris?

Work event i think. Bring your own guns

 

[Willhoops]

You dont normally deploy 100,000 troops on a border for a jolly.

If it is a jolly, could we send Boris?

He could take some fine British cheddar and some lovely British wine, have a diplomatic meeting.

 

[bobmid]

He could take some fine British cheddar and some lovely British wine, have a diplomatic meeting.

That **** doesnt have a clue whats going on in his own pad nevermind on the russian border

 

[Willhoops]

Send over Farage, he’s never short of an opinion. He’d last less time than a bottle of wine at a Tory work meeting

 

[Staines R's]

You could well be right it’s something he’s been posturing with for years, now might be the right time for him to step up.

should the rest of the world interfere? Yeah .. in theory, Putin shouldn’t be able to just annex another nation… but as we both know it’s not that simple, who knows what would happen off the back of it.

I’m no lover of the Ukrainians who are, or so it seems, rather right wing and nationalistic in their politics. However it seems the West could very well get backed into a corner and be forced to help, through more than just sending arms like we are now, this leading to the potential of a more global conflict.
This sort of thing is always how the big ‘Nuclear war’ films start…..with some mundane conflict being reported and us just ignoring it…then boom !!! Before we know it we’re walking down a long road and considering eating our kids

 

[Steelmonkey]

Im hearing Ivan Drago is going to the front line

Joking aside, Vitaly Klitschko (sp) has said he'll be on the front line

 

[Staines R's]

Joking aside, Vitaly Klitschko (sp) has said he'll be on the front line

There was a doc/film on Netflix that I watched a while ago that has him there at the frontline when the Ukrainian revolution happened. He wasn’t as popular as I thought he would be and some saw him as a sell out

 

[bobmid]

There was a doc/film on Netflix that I watched a while ago that has him there at the frontline when the Ukrainian revolution happened. He wasn’t as popular as I thought he would be and some saw him as a sell out

His fists are his weapons

 

[Staines R's]

His fists are his weapons

He got blasted with a fire extinguisher and looked a bit of a pussy…..(but don’t tell him I said that….please)

 

[ELLERS]

Is that woman immortal, she will still spout her **** from the grave!

I know her… in fact I worked with her for 3 months. I do hear what people think about her but she was right today.

 

[bobmid]

Ive helped sue gray do her job.
The PM stood in parliment and said "he has been assured there were no parties or gatherings at no.10" he also said "all guidance was followed".
He now says in hindsight that he wishes he would have sent everyone back inside from the party that wasnt a party. If he wished that then, why did he stand up and lie to parliment?

 

[ELLERS]

Really…..? What have they been saying that I’ve missed (genuine question) ? Seems to me, from what I’m seeing and reading, that an invasion is near on imminent and the question shouldn’t really be about IF it’s gonna happen, rather more about how we in the west are gonna react WHEN it happens.

The defence bod today said the U.K. would not get involved if they attacked although we have sent many defence systems that would hurt an invading army. The US has sent in Blinken for talks. More importantly the west has threatened to freeze Russia's money and business systems which would hurt them. Although Germany has already caved in, so who knows?
Putin always likes to flex his muscles and having a go at an easy target like Ukraine is the best he can do (remember they handed over all their nukes years ago) so they don't have the strength or deterant. Russia would not stand a chance against the US... probably not even us and our allies.
Saying all that...
We are dealing with a man of masculinity who likes to be regarded as a 'bear'. A mans man who goes out hunting and sits in a hot tub with his mates after drinkinking vodka. A man who likes combat and Karate and get nervous when people get near his border (the EU and Nato).

 

[Willhoops]

I’m no lover of the Ukrainians who are, or so it seems, rather right wing and nationalistic in their politics. However it seems the West could very well get backed into a corner and be forced to help, through more than just sending arms like we are now, this leading to the potential of a more global conflict.
This sort of thing is always how the big ‘Nuclear war’ films start…..with some mundane conflict being reported and us just ignoring it…then boom !!! Before we know it we’re walking down a long road and considering eating our kids

Just don’t know where it stops. If Putin is given the green light so to speak, Is that the end of it? Or what’s his next move when he gets bored.

 

[Staines R's]

The defence bod today said the U.K. would not get involved if they attacked although we have sent many defence systems that would hurt an invading army. The US has sent in Blinken for talks. More importantly the west has threatened to freeze Russia's money and business systems which would hurt them. Although Germany has already caved in, so who knows?
Putin always likes to flex his muscles and having a go at an easy target like Ukraine is the best he can do (remember they handed over all their nukes years ago) so they don't have the strength or deterant. Russia would not stand a chance against the US... probably not even us and our allies.
Saying all that...
We are dealing with a man of masculinity who likes to be regarded as a 'bear'. A mans man who goes out hunting and sits in a hot tub with his mates after drinkinking vodka. A man who likes combat and Karate and get nervous when people get near his border (the EU and Nato).

Good post.

Totally agree with your last paragraph….on paper you would say it would be madness for him to invade and could eventually lead to his downfall…..however I think all logic is lost on him with his craving for territory and power. Don’t think he’ll want to look weak to his people and as Hoop-Leif says, 100,000 troops are a lot to deploy on the border if he really has no intention of an invasion.
Interesting times to come