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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I haven't a clue. You said it, who do you think is giving him poor advice?
Those unknown advisers that pop up every so often. He had a good team before becoming PM and got rid of them. That’s how it works. He can’t be in control of everything. He gets briefed and sometimes it’s naff advice.
 
This is what I find a bit odd about the stance taken by Col and Stan. I can understand people not wanting to engage with certain others on politics, but why decide to ignore (either by will power or by using the tech) everything a certain poster might have to say about football, cricket or any other topic?
OK, I’ll take them off ignore for a bit as an experiment.
 
Not really. Maybe for you and Lord Adonis but for the rest of us we don’t need ECJ involved with a part of our country.

It sounds like you’re in for some unfortunate news then (when this becomes news which it isn’t now despite being reported by The Times).
 
It appears that the Cabinet Secretary’s office had covid law breaching Xmas parties too The same Cabinet Secretary, Simon Case, tasked by Boris Johnson to investigate Xmas parties Shouldn’t be difficult to investigate! We’re now in pure Alice in Wonderland territory!
 
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Turns out people aren’t big on being lied to. Who knew?

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Yeah, I heard some locals on the radio this morning saying exactly that - farmers and rural communities are extremely pissed off about how Brexit will impact them. So much so, that a constituency in which 60% voted Leave has elected a Remainer* Lib Dem to be their MP..I still think that the vote was mainly about Johnson himself, but it does seem that Brexit was a factor.

* I hate to use that term, because I think that defining people by how they voted in the referendum should have stopped long ago, but it's still used all the time by those that were pro-Brexit (you know, the people who like to tell us that we should 'move on').
 
Reporter chatting with a political pundit on TV discussing the by election and the reporter asked “What about Labour in all this”? The pundit just brushed them off “Labour has no leadship”. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

poll just in say 93% say it was a ‘protest vote’
 
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Yeah, I heard some locals on the radio this morning saying exactly that - farmers and rural communities are extremely pissed off about how Brexit will impact them. So much so, that a constituency in which 60% voted Leave has elected a Remainer* Lib Dem to be their MP..I still think that the vote was mainly about Johnson himself, but it does seem that Brexit was a factor.

* I hate to use that term, because I think that defining people by how they voted in the referendum should have stopped long ago, but it's still used all the time by those that were pro-Brexit (you know, the people who like to tell us that we should 'move on').

Labour is the real story here.
 
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Labour didn't campaign seriously in North Shropshire. I heard a Labour member this morning saying he'd canvassed on behalf of the Lib Dem.

It’s a textbook case of what progressive parties can do within the confines of FPTP. It won’t work everywhere but it’s the only chance England has of not being Tory-dominated and there’s a slim hope they might be waking up to that.