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No not having this. You claim to be fighting women’s fights here yet are going after a target that has shown no real threat … oh a trans person having a ****. Yet I don’t see you commenting on that poor girl who was murdered in Liverpool by teen boys that’s all over the news, the assaults that are carried out by boys and men, the murders carried out by boys and men..: no you make a huge example and bang on about one incident, the type of incident that happens multiple times daily… by … yes men.

if your fighting women’s rights why aren’t you bringing incidents to this forum of the daily struggles, the daily abuse, the daily crimes committed by men!! Genuine question as you don’t. There is clearly attitude and societal problems with attitudes to women by men. However you seem to jump on any trans related story.

How many trans people do you actually know? I mean talk to regularly? Be honest. Both myself and Beth know a fair few, not one of them convicted of offences against women, just people who want to live without threat and violence.

You mention close down discussion but if we’re having a discussion let’s put it into perspective and give the relevant threats the amount of space they deserve

First, it's not a trans person having a ****. It's a trans person having a **** in public. Clearly, woke doesn't see the difference when a dress is involved.

It's boring having to repeat myself - the relevance of posting this, is not to draw attention to some pervert getting his penis out - but the way it was reported in part of the press. That this was a criminal offence by a woman. That does not sit well with me.

And do not virtue signal over the 12 year old girl that was murdered today. Just because I didn't mention it during a post on a sexual pervert, does not mean I'm not completely shocked and saddened by it. Nor does the fact that I haven't mentioned male on female violence recently. It's highly concerning, but it has been going on since the caveman - so although it's on the increase, it's not new. The encroachment of trans on women's rights is new. Excluding the honourable exceptions of those trans people having had surgery, men who simply say they identify as a woman are forcing their way into women's areas. Feminists have fought hard for their rights since the 1960's and now men are taking them back. Women and girls should be safe and confident in female toilets, changing areas etc Males with genitals in a woman's changing room present an apparent risk, even if in fact the risk is benign.
 
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I didn’t, I clearly used a metaphor to describe an attitude of how I saw the Tory government can do what they like, walk all over those who support them and they’d still sing their praises. However despite me saying metaphorically speaking, that was ignored and was supposedly personal which was not my intention. However Goldie is now bringing something up from, wow probably well over a year, maybe more than two ago rather than addressing why he sees trans people as such a threat and jumping on pretty much any media report or story, presenting it as a concern he has for the safety of women and girls… yet doesn’t bring up the single biggest story of the tragic murder of a girl by four boys.. or any other reports for that matter.. well unless there’s a trans angle involved

You brought Eller's wife into a pejorative example you were giving, Will. Cut out the personal stuff.
 
Fair enough. You could walk in on Boris Johnson and John Major shagging your wife and would ask if they fancied a cup of tea. Probably not Major so much now he’s left of UKIP.

Major is now left of Blair. Starmer should invite him into his shadow cabinet to plan a "Rejoin the EU" strategy - though female Labour MP's may not be safe with Long John around... well, Margaret Beckett might be.
 
First, it's not a trans person having a ****. It's a trans person having a **** in public. Clearly, woke doesn't see the difference when a dress is involved.
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I find this a little irrelevant tbh.
There is no law against anyone dressing in a dress and saying they are a woman (or a laaaady). But it is against the law to expose your genitals in public (p**** or the equivalent). This person is obviously an exhibitionist, trying to make a point or something. This is a criminal mental health problem and little to do with the trans discussion

No trans person would do that for effect. No transperson would go through all that it entails to become or be seen as a woman to rape a woman, there are a lot easier ways to do that.

Why is everyone so fixated in what is in your trousers/under your skirt. That is the bit I really really don't understand.
Cannot we all just accept each other for who we are ...it is not hard

Oh and also lets keep it civil, ...
Its called simply RESPECT
 
I find this a little irrelevant tbh.
There is no law against anyone dressing in a dress and saying they are a woman (or a laaaady). But it is against the law to expose your genitals in public (p**** or the equivalent). This person is obviously an exhibitionist, trying to make a point or something. This is a criminal mental health problem and little to do with the trans discussion

No trans person would do that for effect. No transperson would go through all that it entails to become or be seen as a woman to rape a woman, there are a lot easier ways to do that.

Why is everyone so fixated in what is in your trousers/under your skirt. That is the bit I really really don't understand.
Cannot we all just accept each other for who we are ...it is not hard

Oh and also lets keep it civil, ...
Its called simply RESPECT

As I said to Will, Beth, the relevance for me is the fact that this is being reported as a women's crime. It may go down into crime statistics for women. Are you happy with that?
 
As I said to Will, Beth, the relevance for me is the fact that this is being reported as a women's crime. It may go down into crime statistics for women. Are you happy with that?
To be honest Goldie yes.
A woman charged with indecent exposure of their p@@@@, will be seen for what it is.

It will be dealt with appropriately, if this person is in the process of transitioning they will be treated as the gender they identify as...if not they will be treated as the gender they are. I think we have to leave that up to the individual case. I suspect they be assigned to the local mental/social services as the behaviour is decidedly odd....man, woman or trans
 
To be honest Goldie yes.
A woman charged with indecent exposure of their p@@@@, will be seen for what it is.

It will be dealt with appropriately, if this person is in the process of transitioning they will be treated as the gender they identify as...if not they will be treated as the gender they are. I think we have to leave that up to the individual case. I suspect they be assigned to the local mental/social services as the behaviour is decidedly odd....man, woman or trans

But self identifying trans people (with no surgery done or planned) may go with the gender they choose and no allowance will be made in crime statistics. So all crimes done by men in dresses will be down to women. It will skew reality.

Agree about the mental services!
 
But self identifying trans people (with no surgery done or planned) may go with the gender they choose and no allowance will be made in crime statistics. So all crimes done by men in dresses will be down to women. It will skew reality.

Agree about the mental services!
Think youve got your knickers in a twist over this mate :emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
And there lays the difference mate. I wouldnt have been bothered and would have seen it for the metaphor it was, just as i believe you did but needed to go gammon on something. I mentioned Steels mrs in a post and he took it for what it was.

What did you say about Steel's Mrs? Will used it in a pejorative anecdote, which is not on.