derby minus 9 more
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The Championship club, docked 12 points for entering administration in September, have agreed to the dismissal of their appeal against that decision.
The latest penalty leaves Wayne Rooney's side on -3 points - 18 points from safety at the foot of the table.
It means the Rams are almost certain to be relegated to League One.
Derby have also been given a further suspended three-point deduction for their breaches of the league's profitability and sustainability (P&S) rules.
That will take effect if the Rams fail to comply with the terms of a budget for the remainder of the season set out as part of an 'agreed decision' between the EFL and the club.
Carl Jackson, from Derby's administrators Quantuma, said: "This has been a difficult matter to navigate bearing in mind the various issues concerned.
"Whilst point deductions are never ideal, it was critical to the club's future that all matters were concluded between the EFL and the club in relation to historical issues.
"This conclusion allows us to proceed with our restructuring strategy for the club with prospective interested parties."
Derby have only spent four seasons outside the top two divisions of English football in their entire history.
The last occasion was in 1985-86, when they were promoted under Arthur Cox.
The latest penalty leaves Wayne Rooney's side on -3 points - 18 points from safety at the foot of the table.
It means the Rams are almost certain to be relegated to League One.
Derby have also been given a further suspended three-point deduction for their breaches of the league's profitability and sustainability (P&S) rules.
That will take effect if the Rams fail to comply with the terms of a budget for the remainder of the season set out as part of an 'agreed decision' between the EFL and the club.
Carl Jackson, from Derby's administrators Quantuma, said: "This has been a difficult matter to navigate bearing in mind the various issues concerned.
"Whilst point deductions are never ideal, it was critical to the club's future that all matters were concluded between the EFL and the club in relation to historical issues.
"This conclusion allows us to proceed with our restructuring strategy for the club with prospective interested parties."
Derby have only spent four seasons outside the top two divisions of English football in their entire history.
The last occasion was in 1985-86, when they were promoted under Arthur Cox.
I know the extra points deduction will almost certainly see them relegated but I think that process should be automatic based on their history of flouting the rules.
they have managed to avoid LGE 1 and given themselves a chance to get the points ... last season were under pressure, but season before did manage 64 pts now they have to average 1.9 pts a game to be in with a shout!
Reading a paltry -6 with 6 suspended.. come on where is the fairness for past teams. it should be an open or closed book. Break the rules and wham book closed. -12 points.
It is not a real deterrent, break the rules and hope you get promoted, if not, be prepared for the WSC points deduction and you are able to secure enough points with the team you have "bettered" by finishing 21st or better! and to boot plead for mercy dont give us all of them at once .....
It is not a real deterrent, break the rules and hope you get promoted, if not, be prepared for the WSC points deduction and you are able to secure enough points with the team you have "bettered" by finishing 21st or better! and to boot plead for mercy dont give us all of them at once .....
well the truth is known finally around £75m .. plus what is owed to Mel Morris!
SADDEST BIT what they owe St Johns Ambulance.
Agents fee's for 2 players!!! £504,0000 ....!
the connected to companies "wonder what their debts are outside Derby FOOTBALL CLUB"
Derby's six connected companies have all updated their records with Companies House, showing a combined overall total of £29.3m owed to HMRC. They also show a £20m loan received from US investment group MSD Holdings, which was already known about.
In addition, a combination of football and trade creditors are owed around £15m.
These are the debts, in addition to more money owed to former owner Mel Morris, that the administrators need to renegotiate before they can sell the club, which they still hope to do at some point in January.
On that list of creditors, Derby owe £8.37m in outstanding player registration fees, plus a further £504,000 in agents' commission. This is believed to be connected to the deals that saw Krystian Bielik join Derby from Arsenal in 2019 and Kamil Jozwiak move to Pride Park from Lech Poznan in September 2020.
More than £1m is owed to the Wasserman agency, while the Triple S Sports Management company, owned by manager Wayne Rooney's long-time adviser Paul Stretford, is owed £60,000. St John Ambulance is owed £8,000.
SADDEST BIT what they owe St Johns Ambulance.
Agents fee's for 2 players!!! £504,0000 ....!
the connected to companies "wonder what their debts are outside Derby FOOTBALL CLUB"
Derby's six connected companies have all updated their records with Companies House, showing a combined overall total of £29.3m owed to HMRC. They also show a £20m loan received from US investment group MSD Holdings, which was already known about.
In addition, a combination of football and trade creditors are owed around £15m.
These are the debts, in addition to more money owed to former owner Mel Morris, that the administrators need to renegotiate before they can sell the club, which they still hope to do at some point in January.
On that list of creditors, Derby owe £8.37m in outstanding player registration fees, plus a further £504,000 in agents' commission. This is believed to be connected to the deals that saw Krystian Bielik join Derby from Arsenal in 2019 and Kamil Jozwiak move to Pride Park from Lech Poznan in September 2020.
More than £1m is owed to the Wasserman agency, while the Triple S Sports Management company, owned by manager Wayne Rooney's long-time adviser Paul Stretford, is owed £60,000. St John Ambulance is owed £8,000.
currently DERBY are without penalty 1 pt better than BCFC!!!! Reading 3pts better ! which makes City 20th!!!!!!!!!
based on results to date:
Barnsley ... 0.61 pts a game = 28pts
Peterbro ... 0.83 ------ii----- = 38pts
Hull Cty ... 0.83 -------ii----- = 38 pts
Cardiff ..... 1 .oo -------ii----- = 46pts
Bristol ...... 1.11 -------ii ----- = 51pts
Sheff U ..... 1.11 -------ii----- = 51pts
Derby ..... 1.67 --------ii------ = 47pts finish 20th! ........ Rooney could be right! ==== 18 current W 4 D9 L5 ......... Next 18 games = W 8 D 5 L5 = 29 pts is equal to current top 6!!!
Reading .... 1.28 --------ii------ = 53pts finish 18th-20th!
Barnsley have a new manager so could improve
Peterbro just renewed DF's contract
Cardiff put caretaker in charge for whole season
Barnsley ... 0.61 pts a game = 28pts
Peterbro ... 0.83 ------ii----- = 38pts
Hull Cty ... 0.83 -------ii----- = 38 pts
Cardiff ..... 1 .oo -------ii----- = 46pts
Bristol ...... 1.11 -------ii ----- = 51pts
Sheff U ..... 1.11 -------ii----- = 51pts
Derby ..... 1.67 --------ii------ = 47pts finish 20th! ........ Rooney could be right! ==== 18 current W 4 D9 L5 ......... Next 18 games = W 8 D 5 L5 = 29 pts is equal to current top 6!!!
Reading .... 1.28 --------ii------ = 53pts finish 18th-20th!
Barnsley have a new manager so could improve
Peterbro just renewed DF's contract
Cardiff put caretaker in charge for whole season
oh how the EFL works now given Derby another month... might as welltell them come back at end of APRIL we can then deduct another 12 points officially pass sentence on you to be demoted a division ... oh you are likely to be anyway so not really a punishment ... .. Bring back bury!!!