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bcfcredandwhite

bcfcredandwhite

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I read this yesterday, the guy must have serious insider knowledge,he seems to be more aware than some of the team employed, we ran a thread about Gilhespy and his set up a few weeks back based on a BP article, we raised a few eyebrows then (joking), just maybe Tech is better than spec, it just might be the way forward. who knows but surely a chief scout and his team would be more acceptable.

Anything is better than Ashton and his greasy fingers in everyones pie.
https://www.not606.com/threads/bristol-citys-recruitment-team.396188/
 
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bcfcredandwhite said:
I found this article on OTIB and thought it was worth bringing to your attention on this forum.

The OP (if telling the truth) seems to have a detailed insight into our recruitment setup and I found it an interesting read.
I don’t agree with his anti-Weimann comments but everything else is hard to disagree with - if (like I said) his insider knowledge is true.

https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/214395-the-pearson-debate-something-not-mentioned-yet…/
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I know Harry (its not his name). He was involved in identifying transfer targets pre Ashton for BCFC under O'driscoll and Cotterill.
 
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keeping out of this one.... my mate having a week down in dorset caught a near 20lb carp on his first cast about 8 mins in! had bought a 24 hr ticket and spent 23 hours 52 minutes feeding its mates!
 
I thought the article was very informative and well written by someone who appears to have some knowledge that the man on the street doesn't. Several times I, and many others, have wondered what might be going on behind the closed doors of Ashton Gate that gets in our way to improvement and this news was not quite what I expected to hear. The problem centres around Steve Lansdown being a person who wants the status quo to be the order of the day and unless he is prepared to listen to what Nigel has to say then we might as well pack our hopes away for the significant future. How many times do we have to question our dealings in the transfer markets available but I always thought it must be the players not wanting to come to BS3. Apparently now we have to think that the reason they never arrived was actually that we never wanted to talk to anybody. If the article is anywhere close to the truth then I have to believe that the spanner in the works sits right at the top exactly where I always thought he did but seemingly without asking the man he hired to look at the organization from top to bottom.

With our somewhat lousy record of bringing in new team players how will NP get the insight in to what is available to answer our gut wrenching needs without a real road map rather than statistics?
 
bcfcredandwhite said:
My thoughts exactly.
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What is the point of having a head of recruitment, if the budget is so meagre?

And of course the last one was given carte blanche and we are still dealing with the fall out of that decision, how many of the hordes of players we signed in that 4 year period, were not wanted by LJ? judging by the lack of game time for many of them, not many.
 
Jiffie said:
What is the point of having a head of recruitment, if the budget is so meagre?

And of course the last one was given carte blanche and we are still dealing with the fall out of that decision, how many of the hordes of players we signed in that 4 year period, were not wanted by LJ? judging by the lack of game time for many of them, not many.
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That’s why I question how much of a say LJ really did have in some of those signings.
One good example is Kent but there are others.
Presumably we knew we would get ‘fined’ for not playing him - yet we signed him anyway and still didn’t play him.
 
bcfcredandwhite said:
That’s why I question how much of a say LJ really did have in some of those signings.
One good example is Kent but there are others.
Presumably we knew we would get ‘fined’ for not playing him - yet we signed him anyway and still didn’t play him.
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And that's why I question his summer 2019 signing of a 4 year contract? he knew exactly how it was and was going to be but still signed, his stock was still high and could have found another good job easily but made himself complicit by signing the contract.

Nobody not even LJ can claim that as any sort of excuse, he knew exactly what he was signing on for.

As for Kent, LJ picked the teams and not Ashton so the fine can be laid at the door of the person/persons who signed him, the person who allowed it to happen and the person who never played him in equal measure.
 
Jiffie said:
And that's why I question his summer 2019 signing of a 4 year contract? he knew exactly how it was and was going to be but still signed, his stock was still high and could have found another good job easily but made himself complicit by signing the contract.

Nobody not even LJ can claim that as any sort of excuse, he knew exactly what he was signing on for.

As for Kent, LJ picked the teams and not Ashton so the fine can be laid at the door of the person/persons who signed him, the person who allowed it to happen and the person who never played him in equal measure.
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LJ knew what he was signing up for - absolutely. No excuses.
NP knew what he was signing up for - absolutely. No excuses.
 
bcfcredandwhite said:
LJ knew what he was signing up for - absolutely. No excuses.
NP knew what he was signing up for - absolutely. No excuses.
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Indeed and we had a very good idea (excepting the home form) how this season would probably pan out, with our squad and we are exactly there.
 
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oneforthebristolcity said:
We rarely spoke of relegation, but the lack of getting into the top 6......under LJ..
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To be fair 1for, LJ didn’t do himself any favours with his ‘5 years’ statement.
He was afforded a 5 year plan. Maybe it was too ambitious? Who knows.
For me, staying at Championship level was an achievement and it’s the same with NP for now.
 
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Jiffie said:
Ummmmm we are 10 points off of relegation and 5 off of top 6, what's your point?
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The main talk amongst most on here at the beginning of the season was , we would do well to avoid relegation....can't remember that being an issue under LJ, even with his crap players!!
 
bcfcredandwhite said:
To be fair 1for, LJ didn’t do himself any favours with his ‘5 years’ statement.
He was afforded a 5 year plan. Maybe it was too ambitious? Who knows.
For me, staying at Championship level was an achievement and it’s the same with NP for now.
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I agree, his statement was far fetched and over ambitious...........but amusing none the less to City fans, who know better!!
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
The main talk amongst most on here at the beginning of the season was , we would do well to avoid relegation....can't remember that being an issue under LJ, even with his crap players!!
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Only from you and 1 or 2 others, the rest expected mid table and points wise that is exactly where we are.
 
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