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Well I think we know there is no chance of that, a bunch of them are still too busy laughing their tits off that they got government contracts they didn’t need to complete. All it took was a donation.

 

Oh…

https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/06/nige...96NMvxxBe_vFpizK_eA6SF5cXPzNNwBGFe-LiFY9y9SxY

 

Except you can't judge figures during the Silly Season. Any worthwhile guests were hard to come by during August - Farage even had to make do with the leader of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

But last night, he had a number of American commentators talking about the Biden car crash and long term damage to UK/US relations, and it was straight talking and fascinating.

Parliament is back. The new business year began yesterday. The next weeks will be the time to judge the main news outlets and their viewing figures

 

Just think of the billions wasted on that 'world beating' track and trace system, the millions passed on to donors for useless ppe. When will the people of this country wake up to whats happening right under their noses. This charlatan of a PM has no interest in this country or the people who reside in it, hes all about himself and his buddies. Think we need to start applying to other countries for aid rather than giving it out or hope of an invasion to end this dictatorship!

 

And just as infuriating is having a spineless opposition offering little to nothing as an alternative!

 

Vote WPB !!

 

Starmer will come under pressure from within Labour to back Andy Burnham's proposal for a Wealth Tax. He should do just that.

 

Was interested to guage reaction to the social care announcement on here but relatively muted reaction across the board. I wonder if that's representative across the country.

I have mixed feelings. Selfishly, as I have parents/grandparents who all own property in the south of England, I could conceivably benefit significantly from these proposals at some point.

On the other hand, I'd be absolutely livid if I was a renter, without prospect of inheritance which has now been protected, earning an average salary. I'm guessing there are a lot of under 40s in this boat who are now paying more tax to protect the inheritance of the rich. Especially infuriating for people in this situation to know that there will be 60 year olds who have drawn a pension, still earning six figures, not impacted by the NIC rise. And Govt didn't choose to look at other measures like means testing winter fuel payments, free TV licensing, free travel for over 60s etc, or an increase to CGT.

From a 'veil of ignorance' perspective, this probably isn't the way I'd choose to raise the finance, but it's smart politically as 20/30 and increasingly 40 year olds don't vote Tory so it doesn't matter if they are taxed more to pay for the grey voters social care.

That said, I'm impressed Johnson has actually stepped up to try and tackle a very thorny issue. As I've made clear, I have an extremely low opinion of him but this is the first time (as PM) I can remember when he's done something that appears to be an attempt to do something proactive and necessary rather than just looking to serve his own interests.

Interesting to see how this one goes down with the public. Also a tricky one for Lab to respond to, as they don't want to look like they are opposing more money for the NHS, but equally probably don't like what looks like a rather regressive tax rise.

 

In fairness, a 2.5% income tax rise is pretty steep. We'd be pushing the highest rates of income tax up towards 47.5% (or 62.5% in certain circumstances) which is higher than what Germany pay as I understand it. I'd be surprised if we'd even need an increase that big.

 

how much will the new tax rate raise

 

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Dominic Farrell

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How many illegal immigrants have crossed the Channel just this year
@BorisJohnson
? At what cost to the welfare budget, NHS, education, housing and social care budgets? Before taxing supermarket workers and nurses, should tackle this and overseas aid budget.

 

The total tax rate, on top of income tax, is higher in Germany, and many other European countries, but the quality and accessibility of services is better. You get what you pay for, I suppose.

Bit out of date, but some info
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/may/27/tax-britons-pay-europe-australia-us

Interesting to see if the long time before the next election means that those low tax loving Tory voters will have forgiven them by then. In the absence (from what I have seen, and to be honest I’m not looking hard) of any alternative ideas from the other parties, at least they are trying something. Do people realise that ‘social care’ only includes the actual care given at home and in residential homes, not the cost of accommodation?

 

54!t, no I didn't realise that about social care. If assumed this was to cover the cost of accomodation too. That's rubbish.

The way I read your link higher earners here pay more in the UK, which is the most relevant segment given they account for a vastly disproportionate amount of income tax (naturally and rightly).

 

Womens pubic bone?

 

we prefer boys

 

As my old man used to always say to me….”No one likes a clever ****”

 

My son (25) came home from worked rather chuffed today, had a review after his first few months, got glowing feedback and a £500 rise, with a promise of more to come. Then I told him that will be handy to pay the tax for my social care, and hip operation……


Most of this ‘extra’ money will be going to the NHS of course.

 

Suppose the UK could always do what the Government of the Day did here during the economic crash in 2008 and introduce a "temporary" Universal Social Charge charged on all income except pensions. The only problem we have is that the "temporary" charge is still in place 13 years later.........

Rates charged for 2021

Standard rates and thresholds of USC for 2021
2021 Rate
First €12,012....... 0.5%
Next €8,675......... 2%
Next €49,357....... 4.5%
Balance......... 8%

There are a few exemptions but not many escape this charge.........

Don't believe everything you read about Ireland being a low tax country........

 

thats ok then

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