There's no point in sacking him either
This is the thing... He's as good as you'll get replacing him or it'll be like usual out of the frying pan and into the fire
The Steve Bruce appreciation thread
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There's no point in sacking him either
This is the thing... He's as good as you'll get replacing him or it'll be like usual out of the frying pan and into the fire
This is the sad thing. I don't want him there. I don't know a single fan who ever wanted him there because we knew from his track record, results are just not going to be good enough. Its not modern enough. I don't think a manager of that calibre should be managing in the PL and certainly I'd always want more for NUFC. The grim reality is though we will get another out of work manager who is desperate for work. Generally they're out of work for a reason. We will get a guy to do the job too, which after you stay up leaves you with a manager who hasn't been employed with a long term vision in mind. We are in a perpetual vicious circle with this due to Mike. The one departure from this was Benitez who got paid handsomely and wasn't the cheap option. Again though I never felt there was a long term vision, although Benitez would say he was never allowed to fund one.
It all comes back to Mike and his unwillingness to budge on how he sees things. I think the frustrating thing for fans is it doesn't have to be this way, even on a tight budget. With the right research you can pluck an unknown and set up the club in a modern way, on a cost restricted budget. He's just a cheap arse with zero interest in football and the sporting side of owning a club.
We got lucky with rafa there was ko better option for him and he had the balls to actually take it on.
The next manager will be done **** lol Allardyce, Tim sherwood or Mark Hughes, so for that reason is rather cross my fingers, hope Bruce proves the nufc fan base wrong once again and pray for a takeover next summer.
It just feels like groundhog day. Pressure builds on Bruce, gets sacked maybe November time. Mike appoints some other doylem who scrapes by on feel good of getting rid of Bruce. Mike eulogises of a job well done and said doylem is then the new Bruce for 1-3 years. It would be depressing if I still gave the same **** about it all.
Nufc keep going after Bruce even when the sides performing and they've made it personal.
Other fans don't like nufc fans and that's why because on the outside you see it for what it actually is which is a witch hunt.
Really? Let's just be real mate and say that nufc fans went after him from day 1...
Essentially nufc fans made it personal and when Bruce started defending himself they started saying "see he's a ****"
Did nufc fans still go after him when newcastle were doing well the 2nd half of last season?
Gotta say I'm with Chaos here, our fans are a right set of knackers when it comes to managers. If your face doesn't fit they set about you from day 1 looking for problems. They then try to blame every single negative on the manager regardless, and look like a set of twats to the outside world. Any good times or form are attributed to luck or another person (like Jones). Then when they like someone, they completely change the criteria, ignore any bad points and its Mike who is not allowing them to get results. It gets a bit embarrassing at times, a lot of our fans just seem fairweather to me and don't really understand how to remain objective.
Spot on mate.. They're dishonest alot of the time and change the goalposts all the time.
Eg all they wanted was a hard working side, but when they got that they wanted to lose 4-3... They lost 4-3 vs City end of last season and they weren't happy...
I hated Bruce before he turned up as manager. He then set about being ****ing useless. It's not his fault he's here, of course, and his League One-level restrictions are embarrassing for everyone involved. But that doesn't detract from the fact he is ****ing useless, and always has been, and shouldn't be manager of this club. Neither should Pardew or Kinnear, but that's the owner. In hindsight, Pardew actually wasn't as bad as the grief he got. Not always, anyway. But Kinnear, like Bruce, was ****ing useless and twice as ****ing embarrassing.
It's pretty obvious with Rafa - we finally seemed to punch above our weight in terms of having someone to be proud of in charge of the club. Hell, it was unheard of under Ashley. And to a fan, the pride, the hope, is more important than the quality of football, the accumulation of points, the transfers. Objective is a word that just doesn't mean anything in any of this - football is tribal emotion, not a business decision. If it was purely objective, we could all follow Man U this year because on paper they have the best chance of playing good football and winning matches. So I'm not sure how we then have to put an objective discussion in front of Bruce, or Rafa. Rafa brought pride and hope, Bruce cheapens the club, degrades it, embarrasses the fans. That Rafa's "brand" of football was even worse than Bruce's is completely irrelevant, I'm afraid.
Nah the fans just go on like a complete set of pricks mate. Once someone is in the fans should do what they signed up for, support. If not just **** off and go play with their cock/fanny. Nothing to do with whether they degrade the club, the fans make their judgements before time or results have passed. We've got loads of tools. They hamper the club equally as much as a bad manager does.
Absolute bollocks
They chased out Bobby Robson and have forced out good players over the years.
But that could be said for any set of fans. Or, broadly, people. People are ****s, for the most part. Hence Brexit. Most of the population are ****ing idiotic simpletons - hence why you could shove Mourinho into Newcastle and nothing that happens after matters, he'd be glorified, prayed to, people would create shrines to him.
Our issue is Ashley. If you had Billy Beane as owner, and he sacked Bruce and appointed Potter, it would be seen as progressive and your objective view might in part be adopted. They'd support the team, initially, and give it a chance. We have Ashley so in the same scenario, people would instantly moan that Potter was even worse, finished below Bruce and is an ugly, Southern bastard.
Hope starts at the top with the identity of the club. Our fans weren't always knackers, mate, they just want hope and we've been repeatedly **** on from higher heights than most. There's no hope left.
Absolute bollocks
They do if not more. They've created a toxic situation for years with their ridiculous badly thought out reasoning. Just the nature of being half brains sadly.
You could change it all mate, you still can't legislate for our fans. Its like they want to whinge. They just shift what they moan about. Like I say they are part of the problem and prevent progress.
Unfortunately there was actually quite a large amount of them.
Robson himself addressed them prior to being sacked.
Ultimately it did happen and everyone in the world of football knows it... The nufc fanbase has made sure they're as popular as the Millwall fans over the last 20 years
By the way lads and lasses, if you haven't experienced tacos from Chuchos (Shields Road), you need to question your whole existence in the North East. Stupendous every ****ing time.
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