MKM Stadium Now Cashless...

[Mr Hatem]

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[Ric Glasgow]

If you talk to any self employed builders
They’re all convinced lockdown and what the government is gonna do cos of it all relates with them fiddling their taxes. they don’t wanna pay tax on their work and wanna be on 11000 a year officially!
they think they’re doing people a favour not adding it through the books in effect they’re just such greedy ****s

I think a lot of these builders merchants that deal with tradesmen will eventually move towards account only sales.This in effect could nullify self employed builders from claiming that they earned the minimum when the reality is they've spent £100k on roof tiles etc over the course of a year...

I know of some greedy twats that deal 'cash in hand',pocket a grand a week and claim benefits...

 

[Barchullona]

If you talk to any self employed builders
They’re all convinced lockdown and what the government is gonna do cos of it all relates with them fiddling their taxes. they don’t wanna pay tax on their work and wanna be on 11000 a year officially!
they think they’re doing people a favour not adding it through the books in effect they’re just such greedy ****s

Next think you know travellers will accept card payments for trimming in your hedges and tarmacing your drive, issuing you with a receipt with their VAT registration number on it. Maybe...

 

[Barchullona]

I think a lot of these builders merchants that deal with tradesmen will eventually move towards account only sales.This in effect could nullify self employed builders from claiming that they earned the minimum when the reality is they've spent £100k on roof tiles etc over the course of a year...

I know of some greedy twats that deal 'cash in hand',pocket a grand a week and claim benefits...

You want to look up what went on in Greece.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

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Being a Numismatist myself I found that very nice.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

A quick google quickly shows that establishments CAN refuse to accept (or at least decide that it's card payment only). Way of the world.

Look on a £20 note, from the Bank of England, 'I promise to pay the the bearer by demand the sum of twenty pound'
Cash is legal tender and if an establishment refuses to take it go elsewhere, as I have done already, one pub immediately changed their policy and the same at the bar at Hull Truck.
Got to conform when going to City though which will mean I won't be spending much.

 

[Mr Hatem]

Being a Numismatist myself I found that very nice.

No religion ta.

 

[x]

Physical money served a purpose for thousands of years.

It's now not needed.


It's days are numbered.


It won't disappear completely for many years but it will go the way of all things which have been superceded eventually.

the disappearance of cash is potentially a major evil of digitalisation where there are repressive regimes, including the pervasive "cancel culture" currently effing with concepts like freedom of speech and freedom of thought. current cancel culture tactics include shaming companies that trade/otherwise deal with targetted individual into closing down accounts, bannings from stores, etc. take that to its clear extreme and you get people being unable to deal with banks, unable to use utility companies, and unable to purchase the basics of life. methods that will be used aplenty in communist countries.

 

[balkan tiger]

the disappearance of cash is potentially a major evil of digitalisation where there are repressive regimes, including the pervasive "cancel culture" currently effing with concepts like freedom of speech and freedom of thought. current cancel culture tactics include shaming companies that trade/otherwise deal with targetted individual into closing down accounts, bannings from stores, etc. take that to its clear extreme and you get people being unable to deal with banks, unable to use utility companies, and unable to purchase the basics of life. methods that will be used aplenty in communist countries.

And then the internet goes down or there's a power cut and everyone is ****ed.

 

[Kempton]

And then the internet goes down or there's a power cut and everyone is ****ed.

That’s a very good point. There's been plenty times I've wanted to use my card to pay, but the machine's down and I don't have cash on me. Can't see that happening at the MKM obvs

 

[Mr Hatem]

And then the internet goes down or there's a power cut and everyone is ****ed.

Just like it is here. You can't even buy electricity credit when the system is down.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Or talk to any Bankers and they will tell you that cash is outdated now and every one should use card payments but I don't think they will be as keen to inform you that they are raking in billions because of this and that they take a rake off from every single purchase made by everyone. Big Brother is here.

You’ve got that the wrong way round, banks charge far more to bank cash, than they take on card payments.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

You’ve got that the wrong way round, banks charge far more to bank cash, than they take on card payments.

Not in my business they don't.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Not in my business they don't.

Unless you’re getting shafted by whoever provides your merchant services, you’ll be paying 20-35p for every £100 you take on a debit card and 75p-£1 for every £100 you bank in cash (credit cards are higher than debit cards, but sill less than cash).

It’s obvious why banks want to move away from cash, it needs counting and costs a fortune to move around, far cheaper for them to do everything digitally.

 

[allowentry]

If you talk to any self employed builders
They’re all convinced lockdown and what the government is gonna do cos of it all relates with them fiddling their taxes. they don’t wanna pay tax on their work and wanna be on 11000 a year officially!
they think they’re doing people a favour not adding it through the books in effect they’re just such greedy ****s

Trouble is they are doing you a favour as paying then cash results in 20% off your bill for the work done to your house which can be thousands. But you don't have anything to fall back on if anything goes wrong, same with guvvy jobs.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Trouble is they are doing you a favour as paying then cash results in 20% off your bill for the work done to your house which can be thousands. But you don't have anything to fall back on if anything goes wrong, same with guvvy jobs.

In a way but actually they’re just charging astronomical prices for their work nowadays
But getting a good builder whose reliable is like getting a good owner!! Nigh on impossible

 

[steverico]

Or talk to any Bankers and they will tell you that cash is outdated now and every one should use card payments but I don't think they will be as keen to inform you that they are raking in billions because of this and that they take a rake off from every single purchase made by everyone. Big Brother is here.

My card machine charges me 1.6% a customer wanted to pay a heating job on her card £2300 in total, I said sure you pay the near £37 charges I will get, soon decided to bank transfer it, I know big companies will get better rates but it’s a massive bonus for card companies, all it does is put prices up, cash should still be king.

 

[DMD]

Look on a £20 note, from the Bank of England, 'I promise to pay the the bearer by demand the sum of twenty pound'
Cash is legal tender and if an establishment refuses to take it go elsewhere, as I have done already, one pub immediately changed their policy and the same at the bar at Hull Truck.
Got to conform when going to City though which will mean I won't be spending much.

If you took that to the Bank of England, and asked them to honour that promise, what would they give you?

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Unless you’re getting shafted by whoever provides your merchant services, you’ll be paying 20-35p for every £100 you take on a debit card and 75p-£1 for every £100 you bank in cash (credit cards are higher than debit cards, but sill less than cash).

It’s obvious why banks want to move away from cash, it needs counting and costs a fortune to move around, far cheaper for them to do everything digitally.

Call me old fashioned but I remember the days when the Bank used to pay the customer by way of interest for every pound they banked with them. They then made their money by loaning your money out to lenders at a higher rate of interest then they ( the Banks) paid the saver.

 

[City Man]

And then the internet goes down or there's a power cut and everyone is ****ed.

Bravo sir!

I find the MKM to be a Bermuda triangle of phone /internet reception but regardless of that the tech fails too often and is therefore too unreliable to be the sole means of payment.

Cash is king and doesn't need passwords, batteries, the internet, a fixed number of users etc.

Club should expand rather than narrow its options.