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[luvgonzo]

True words bro

It's worrying that there seems to be very little that people within an official capacity are willing to do.

 

[Solid Air]

We're a nation full of ****s and a nation full of drinkers which isn't a great mix. It's been said by police that we don't really get hooligans with England anymore. It's more anti social behaviour and so called 'lad culture' - you'll see people acting in such ways across city centres every weekend.

Think there was far more trouble after losing in 96 then there was on Sunday. I was actually surprised yesterday morning when I woke up to no reports of widespread trouble. Hopefully the ****s who forced entry and fought stewards etc are identified.

yep every English town is littered with crap, glass vomit and blood every Saturday & Sunday morning with shop windows caved in as a fun night out was enjoyed by all

 

[Treble]

It's worrying that there seems to be very little that people within an official capacity are willing to do.

I think the strength in Rashford is very simple, all he does is talk from the heart about his personal experiences - whether it's kids going hungry, racism or his football which is why it's so powerful, and he does it so eloquently. It just comes across as genuine. I dare say those who are in an official capacity don't have those personal experiences and often come across as just offering lip service or sometimes just being fake. Not saying none of them care (some don't) but they just don't care enough.

 

[Edelman]

There's a lot of truth to that. I was just thinking I could be pissed but I wouldn't be looking to start attacking stewards and Italians - more likely hoping just to find my seat tbh

Yeh I said earlier maybe I have a romanticised view of '96 so was wondering if anyone remembers it differently. I was in and around London at the time and I don't remember the trouble after the loss at all tbh. Of course with social media and "global 24/7 news" you can see it moreso now.

There was a lot of trouble in I think it was Trafalgar square after the Semi final loss to Germany in 96

 

[Treble]

There was a lot of trouble in I think it was Trafalgar square after the Semi final loss to Germany in 96

No I take it back, I've looked it up and it was no different.

Can't believe I forgot standing on top of one of those lions in nothing but my underpants and blond wig singing Sex Pistols' God Save The Queen whilst taking a piss on passers by

 

[Archers Road]

I think the strength in Rashford is very simple, all he does is talk from the heart about his personal experiences - whether it's kids going hungry, racism or his football which is why it's so powerful, and he does it so eloquently. It just comes across as genuine. I dare say those who are in an official capacity don't have those personal experiences and often come across as just offering lip service or sometimes just being fake. Not saying none of them care (some don't) but they just don't care enough.

It probably doesn’t help that we have a Prime Minister with a history of making racial slurs (see his journalism career), and who has been deliberately giving a nod and wink to the flag shagging bigots among us for years now.

Boris and that **** Patel had a chance to pin their colours to the mast at the start of this tournament, and they backed the wrong ****ing horse; Tyrone Mings got that absolutely spot on.

 

[Peej]

It probably doesn’t help that we have a Prime Minister with a history of making racial slurs (see his journalism career), and who has been deliberately giving a nod and wink to the flag shagging bigots among us for years now.

Boris and that **** Patel had a chance to pin their colours to the mast at the start of this tournament, and they backed the wrong ****ing horse; Tyrone Mings got that absolutely spot on.

mings is another who quite simply put the government to shame. Another for kids to look up to.

 

[Spurlock]

It's worrying that there seems to be very little that people within an official capacity are willing to do.

This

It’s boring now

Everyone thinks of the pay check first

Black lads should make themselves unavailable for next squad. That’s how I roll if I want change but of course if that happened then there would be people which I regard as idiots who will say **** like ‘ yeh but why should they not play because of racists, the racists win then blah blah blah. It’s boring…if Mings really means what he says and it’s bothering him then make yourself unavailable…it’s for one game but **** all will happen.

Should give up the knee due to its lack of effectiveness, will Mings etc do that? Will the other players do that? Or will their entitlement to play a game of football take precedence? Everyone good with words, no one got the minerals for the hard walk.

Full of **** on both sides, real change isnt t made by weak I’m hurt Tweets from a pro footballer with a cool emo avatar. You want change you look at what the great activists of the world did, Malcolm X , Martin Luther…they didn’t just sulk and write letters, their feet walked.

**** the footballers too, they are weak as pish

 

[aberdude]

He needs help simple as that .

From past posts of his he's fine mostly and then it all goes angry on the odd occasion.

Apart from the forum character most of us don't know each personally so i don't wanna fall into judging people purely on a social media situation.

I'd say it's not worth continuing any text fight.......no fkr wins in a negative frequency.

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[luvgonzo]

This

It’s boring now

Everyone thinks of the pay check first

Black lads should make themselves unavailable for next squad. That’s how I roll if I want change but of course if that happened then there would be people which I regard as idiots who will say **** like ‘ yeh but why should they not play because of racists, the racists win then blah blah blah. It’s boring…if Mings really means what he says and it’s bothering him then make yourself unavailable…it’s for one game but **** all will happen.

Should give up the knee due to its lack of effectiveness, will Mings etc do that? Will the other players do that? Or will their entitlement to play a game of football take precedence? Everyone good with words, no one got the minerals for the hard walk.

Full of **** on both sides, real change isnt t made by weak I’m hurt Tweets from a pro footballer with a cool emo avatar. You want change you look at what the great activists of the world did, Malcolm X , Martin Luther…they didn’t just sulk and write letters, their feet walked.

**** the footballers too, they are weak as pish

You're right it's not effective, more needs to be done by the governing bodies but they are just riding this out and are paying pay service to the gesture with no intention of actually doing anything.

 

[aberdude]

We're a nation full of ****s and a nation full of drinkers which isn't a great mix. It's been said by police that we don't really get hooligans with England anymore. It's more anti social behaviour and so called 'lad culture' - you'll see people acting in such ways across city centres every weekend.

Think there was far more trouble after losing in 96 then there was on Sunday. I was actually surprised yesterday morning when I woke up to no reports of widespread trouble. Hopefully the ****s who forced entry and fought stewards etc are identified.

Free the weed.......oh and Julian Assange.

 

[Treble]

It probably doesn’t help that we have a Prime Minister with a history of making racial slurs (see his journalism career), and who has been deliberately giving a nod and wink to the flag shagging bigots among us for years now.

Boris and that **** Patel had a chance to pin their colours to the mast at the start of this tournament, and they backed the wrong ****ing horse; Tyrone Mings got that absolutely spot on.

Spot on. Dog whistle politics... don't be surprised when the dogs start barking.

Anyone who's seen Omen 2 will know exactly what I think of Pritti Patel.

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[Saf]

This

It’s boring now

Everyone thinks of the pay check first

Black lads should make themselves unavailable for next squad. That’s how I roll if I want change but of course if that happened then there would be people which I regard as idiots who will say **** like ‘ yeh but why should they not play because of racists, the racists win then blah blah blah. It’s boring…if Mings really means what he says and it’s bothering him then make yourself unavailable…it’s for one game but **** all will happen.

Should give up the knee due to its lack of effectiveness, will Mings etc do that? Will the other players do that? Or will their entitlement to play a game of football take precedence? Everyone good with words, no one got the minerals for the hard walk.

Full of **** on both sides, real change isnt t made by weak I’m hurt Tweets from a pro footballer with a cool emo avatar. You want change you look at what the great activists of the world did, Malcolm X , Martin Luther…they didn’t just sulk and write letters, their feet walked.

**** the footballers too, they are weak as pish

Good post, mate.

I'd suggest the first thing they need to do is get up off their knees. I understand it's not a BLM 'thing' but it is commonly associated with that movement so it's never going to win widespread support. I don't think it's asking too much to find another way of promoting the stamping out of racism which the vast majority will get behind.

It's just pissing people off because of the link to BLM so why not just change it instead of digging their heels in. It doesn't make sense.

 

[aberdude]

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[Welshie]

You're right it's not effective, more needs to be done by the governing bodies but they are just riding this out and are paying pay service to the gesture with no intention of actually doing anything.

I think more needs to be done by the players, as Spurly suggested. Make a stand yourself, do something, refuse to play for England.

They want to enact change without sacrifice. Thats not going to work

 

[brb]

Morning lads.

@Saff and @Edelman please put each other on ignore. Rather than implement a PM ban on both of you, I suggest you both refrain from PMing one another any further.

I'm going to go back now and delete posts.

Thanks brb

 

[Edelman]

Morning lads.

@Saff and @Edelman please put each other on ignore. Rather than implement a PM ban on both of you, I suggest you both refrain from PMing one another any further.

I'm going to go back now and delete posts.

Thanks brb

Ok not a problem !

 

[brb]

Morning lads.

@Saff and @Edelman please put each other on ignore. Rather than implement a PM ban on both of you, I suggest you both refrain from PMing one another any further.

I'm going to go back now and delete posts.

Thanks brb

I believe I have deleted everything in relation to this mornings content. Including any that got involved. I left one up of Luv's and one of Libby's because they were merely about people getting in arguments - non specific as I deem them.

If I've missed anything then there is an option to report it and I can go back and remove it.

 

[aberdude]

I believe I have deleted everything in relation to this mornings content. Including any that got involved. I left one up of Luv's and one of Libby's because they were merely about people getting in arguments - non specific as I deem them.

If I've missed anything then there is an option to report it and I can go back and remove it.

Is my words of wisdom man still there.....he should be the next president of the world.......Live life follow through.

 

[Welshie]

This

It’s boring now

Everyone thinks of the pay check first

Black lads should make themselves unavailable for next squad. That’s how I roll if I want change but of course if that happened then there would be people which I regard as idiots who will say **** like ‘ yeh but why should they not play because of racists, the racists win then blah blah blah. It’s boring…if Mings really means what he says and it’s bothering him then make yourself unavailable…it’s for one game but **** all will happen.

Should give up the knee due to its lack of effectiveness, will Mings etc do that? Will the other players do that? Or will their entitlement to play a game of football take precedence? Everyone good with words, no one got the minerals for the hard walk.

Full of **** on both sides, real change isnt t made by weak I’m hurt Tweets from a pro footballer with a cool emo avatar. You want change you look at what the great activists of the world did, Malcolm X , Martin Luther…they didn’t just sulk and write letters, their feet walked.

**** the footballers too, they are weak as pish

Mings wont give up the knee because he thinks it works, theyre blaming the government for not saying its mean to boo the knee.

Its the definition of gesture politics. Theyre doing absolutely nothing, now theyre pissed cos people call it that.