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thefanwithnoname said:
I read one early on. But could you point to a couple that did, and if they were 'proveable'
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A couple that did what?
Offer theories for the origin of the world?

StereoTypist just gave you a link to the Wikipedia entry on the formation and evolution of the solar system, at least twice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System

Is it provable?
It's the best current theory, according to the scientific community.

thefanwithnoname said:
Because there is absolutely no evidence that dinosaurs had sex etc
we base it on what we know and see

birds lay eggs, so dinosaurs must have been like birds etc in terms of reproduction

Now you know I am not a creationist in the christian sense
but how can you accept one based on what we 'know' but not another?
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What am I rejecting based upon what we see and know?
 
PNEawf said:
it is why TV programmes should end with a disclaimer. QI is a funny programme but the answers are not always based on real facts. They almost always begin answers with:

"Ah, but not according to......."

Meaning that the response about to be given is only based on that person's theory, book or wild musings!!!!
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like abiogenesis, evolution etc?
 
Fossils of baby dinosaurs have been found inside other dinosaur fossils proving that baby dinosaurs existed.

Given what we know of the biology and sexual reproduction of macro fauna, how likely do you think it is that dinosaurs bumped ugly?
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
A couple that did what?
Offer theories for the origin of the world?

StereoTypist just gave you a link to the Wikipedia entry on the formation and evolution of the solar system, at least twice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System

Is it provable?
It's the best current theory, according to the scientific community.

which scientific community is that? and it certainly doesnt explain the 'beginning' It has a starting point with existing 'matter'

What am I rejecting based upon what we see and know?
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you accept the dinosaurs bit with what we know
yet argue against creationist arguement that as far as we know something is not created out of nothing
 
StereoTypist said:
Fossils of baby dinosaurs have been found inside other dinosaur fossils proving that baby dinosaurs existed.

Given what we know of the biology and sexual reproduction of macro fauna, how likely do you think it is that dinosaurs bumped ugly?
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given what we know can something come out of nothing?
 
Are you still talking about Science V Religion on the topic of how the Universe began?

Clearly Science wins. Thread over.
 
What TFWNN is doing here is trying to take any little doubt about a well accepted scientific theory and use that as proof for his own belief in a God. He's using the lack of proof as proof of this own belief.
 
thefanwithnoname said:
it certainly doesnt explain the 'beginning' It has a starting point with existing 'matter'
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You said:
"I bet no athiest has put forward any 'theory' for the origins of the world".
You didn't ask for theories about the origin of matter.

thefanwithnoname said:
you accept the dinosaurs bit with what we know
yet argue against creationist arguement that as far as we know something is not created out of nothing
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I don't accept the creation of anything, as there's no evidence that anything has ever been created.

Dinosaurs clearly existed and it appears logical that they reproduced, as every other life form that we've observed does.
This is the best current theory of how that happened, based upon a lot of evidence and observation of the most similar creatures that still live.

thefanwithnoname said:
abiogenesis and certain elements of evolution are not 'theories'?
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Do you still not understand what a scientific theory is?

Quick question for you.
Why do humans have vestigial body parts?
 
PNEawf said:
There is more evidence for evolution than any other scientific theory. Because we can't yet explain some, minor, aspects of it does not mean the rest of the evidence doesn't exist. The argument from theists that because not all of it can be explained 100% means none of it is real shows them to be just south of ******ed.
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evolution as a theory has some very STRONG and proveable aspects to it, of that there is no doubt

However as discussed evolution as a 'source of origin' is just a misunderstanding by people who dont know what they are on about

It still has flaws, assumptions if you will and some of these can be massive. for example there is no 'evidence' of species jumping
 
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