is this acceptable?

[Jiffie]

Well here’s a tale of woe of what constitutes law and order in the UK these days.
My son was at his place of work yesterday, when his wife/my daughter in law contacted him. She is in charge of a covid testing station in Bridport at the local leisure centre (my granddaughter also works there) and told him that the car park and field had been invaded by (lets call them travellers) who were setting up camp.
They had become threatening, abusive, spitting and throwing stones at her and her staff and members of the leisure centre staff.
The police had been called on multiple occasions but 2 hours after the start of the invasion, there had been zero attendance. Eventually a single crewed boy soldier arrived later followed by a double crewed vehicle.
At no time during the police attendance did anybody of any rank whatsoever turn up to assess or give guidance. The officers basically hid in the the leisure centre and at no time engaged with any of the travellers at any stage.
The upshot of this is of course the leisure centre and the covid testing site are both closed until further notice for what the management has described as “circumstances beyond their control” they haven’t got the guts to admit the reason why.
This invasion could easily have been stopped at the very beginning.
Is this really something that in the 21st century in the UK, with the restrictions that we are already living under, that constitutes acceptable behaviour all round? + have we become so pathetically sensitive that the management of the leisure centre do not have the guts to call it what it is?
This is exactly why the police need better, clearer defined and tougher laws to protect the forgotten law abiding members of society.
https://www.bridportnews.co.uk/news/19340782.bridport-leisure-centre-closed-further-notice.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Totally not surprised by any of this despite the threats that the travellers were giving out to your family which is a disgrace.
Whatever happened to the Police turning up and forcing the travellers to move on like they used to ?
Liberal attitudes and pandering to the minority has become the norm across the UK and the USA and I'm sick and tired of feeling like the majority of us law abiding citizens don't matter, only the rest of the groups that cause upset, damage, terrorism, racism or just whine because they are 'entitled'

 

[Redprintt]

We are lions led by donkeys.
And don't start me on bloody migrants crossing the Channel escorted by the French Border Control till they enter UK waters.
They'll all have the jab within a week, accommodation and food all found.
Pritti Patel talks a good story but is utterly inept.
Why we put up with the French I'll never know.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

We are lions led by donkeys.
And don't start me on bloody migrants crossing the Channel escorted by the French Border Control till they enter UK waters.
They'll all have the jab within a week, accommodation and food all found.
Pritti Patel talks a good story but is utterly inept.
Why we put up with the French I'll never know.

And since dozy Joe took over in the USA, the Mexican border situation (which was well controlled by the Republicans) is now a humanitarian disaster on their own doorstep and of their own making.
Electors there are supposed to need ID to vote and receive Social Security. The thousands of illegals swarming into the US are being given around $70k each in benefits from housing, clothes, transport etc don't have, or indeed need any ID to get all these free handouts while US citizens and veterans suffer.
The Democrats are doing their level best to wreck their own economy and put tens of thousands of people out of work. Petrol prices and the price of timber are now both at an all time high since January.
The same Democrats that removed all traces of gender from the White House in the 1st week.
And we thought we had it bad......

 

[invermeremike]

If you want the country to come under the jackboot then you couldn't do any better than employ the most racist woman hater and general hatred purveyor called Donald Trump. The situation in the U.S. will never change because they have their collective heads so far up their own backsides to be able to smell the roses and face the reality of the situation.

Beware all Englishmen because if you sit back and let the same pathetic attempts to claim your own national identity be sidelined by pandering to all others then you have to face the fact that one day the country you love will disappear down the toilet only to resurface in turd like form.

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

Well here’s a tale of woe of what constitutes law and order in the UK these days.
My son was at his place of work yesterday, when his wife/my daughter in law contacted him. She is in charge of a covid testing station in Bridport at the local leisure centre (my granddaughter also works there) and told him that the car park and field had been invaded by (lets call them travellers) who were setting up camp.
They had become threatening, abusive, spitting and throwing stones at her and her staff and members of the leisure centre staff.
The police had been called on multiple occasions but 2 hours after the start of the invasion, there had been zero attendance. Eventually a single crewed boy soldier arrived later followed by a double crewed vehicle.
At no time during the police attendance did anybody of any rank whatsoever turn up to assess or give guidance. The officers basically hid in the the leisure centre and at no time engaged with any of the travellers at any stage.
The upshot of this is of course the leisure centre and the covid testing site are both closed until further notice for what the management has described as “circumstances beyond their control” they haven’t got the guts to admit the reason why.
This invasion could easily have been stopped at the very beginning.
Is this really something that in the 21st century in the UK, with the restrictions that we are already living under, that constitutes acceptable behaviour all round? + have we become so pathetically sensitive that the management of the leisure centre do not have the guts to call it what it is?
This is exactly why the police need better, clearer defined and tougher laws to protect the forgotten law abiding members of society.
https://www.bridportnews.co.uk/news/19340782.bridport-leisure-centre-closed-further-notice.

If your relative had told the police that they had a machete and would sort it him/her self with some mates, the police would have been there in huge numbers in seconds.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

It comes to something when Ambulance crews are now being offered body cams to record physical abuse and threatening behaviour when attending people in need of urgent medical care so that prosecutions can brought against offenders ......I mean really ??!!!!!
There were apparently 3,500 cases reported last year for assaults on British Ambulance crews and Paramedics, which included being physically attacked with weapons, being punched, being verbally abused, spat at, and obstructed in the course of their duties. That's without the people who write threatening notes and leave on ambulance windscreens.
Asking the question again, where is the upbringing/parenting, where is the schooling and discipline behind these people that think this is acceptable behaviour ?

 

[Jiffie]

If your relative had told the police that they had a machete and would sort it him/her self with some mates, the police would have been there in huge numbers in seconds.

I doubt that it would have had any bearing, they might have got there quicker but the the lack of action would have been sadly similar.

I suspect the police would have been far more likely to act if somebody had called these 'people' by what is considered a derogatory name. The police seem to have re written the saying "sticks and stones won't hurt my bones but names could ****ing kill me".

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

I know it's on a completely miniscule scale compared to your relative's 'traveller' issue Jiffie, but 15 years ago my daughter was having a party for her 18th birthday at our house. Her birthday is 1st November but we were holding it on 31st October so it could be Halloween themed.
About 11pm-ish, a small car full of young lads thought it would be funny to drive up and down past our house throwing eggs at us. One of the eggs hit a guest in the face which was quite painful.
I stood on the front steps of my house and called the police. They were sympathetic, but told me it was Halloween and they weren't prepared to send anyone for what is simply only a nuisance.
I think Jesus must have been watching, because at that very moment, with the Old Bill on the line, the car full of lads shouting and throwing eggs made another pass - and promptly crashed into a central traffic island, destroying an illuminated bollard and ripping the sump out of the bottom of the engine!!
I told the copper not to worry - they've crashed just up the road from me and I'll go up there with a few mates to sort them out.
The Bill were there within 30 seconds with their 'blues and twos' going.
Sorted!!

 

[Jiffie]

I know it's on a completely miniscule scale compared to your relative's 'traveller' issue Jiffie, but 15 years ago my daughter was having a party for her 18th birthday at our house. Her birthday is 1st November but we were holding it on 31st October so it could be Halloween themed.
About 11pm-ish, a small car full of young lads thought it would be funny to drive up and down past our house throwing eggs at us. One of the eggs hit a guest in the face which was quite painful.
I stood on the front steps of my house and called the police. They were sympathetic, but told me it was Halloween and they weren't prepared to send anyone for what is simply only a nuisance.
I think Jesus must have been watching, because at that very moment, with the Old Bill on the line, the car full of lads shouting and throwing eggs made another pass - and promptly crashed into a central traffic island, destroying an illuminated bollard and ripping the sump out of the bottom of the engine!!
I told the copper not to worry - they've crashed just up the road from me and I'll go up there with a few mates to sort them out.
The Bill were there within 30 seconds with their 'blues and twos' going.
Sorted!!

That's the whole point, it's not minuscule, any 'anti social behaviour' should be always dealt with firmly, because if you allow that behaviour you enter into the realms of give them an inch and they will take a kilometre.

The only reason crime is 'allegedly' falling is because minor crimes has been taken out of the figures and of course the part of society that impacts most on is the low incomes families, where replacing smashed windows and the like has an impact on their standard of living.

 

[clingo]

Hope your daughter in law is OK mate.

 

[Jiffie]

Hope your daughter in law is OK mate.

My daughter in law and granddaughter are both fine thanks, they can and will look after themselves but both very disappointed at the police for their lack of action. Sadly other younger people were badly traumatised by what happened, but hey as we know, as long as the offenders are ok then no problem.

 

[Jiffie]

By way of an update, the ‘travellers’ have been moved, of course leaving their trail of mess, theft and damage.

On the night of the ‘invasion’ the police left before all of the staff were safely off of the premises. One of the officers told one of the staff not take photographs or videos of what was happening, because it might impinge on the ‘travellers’ ‘human rights’.

‘The travellers’ cowardly hide behind their children, virtually using them as shields, the children’s behaviour beggars belief and should not be accepted in what masquerades as civilised society.

To those who oppose the impending law changes, this is why it is needed, people should not be put in fear like this by mob rule.

 

[clingo]

My daughter in law and granddaughter are both fine thanks, they can and will look after themselves but both very disappointed at the police for their lack of action. Sadly other younger people were badly traumatised by what happened, but hey as we know, as long as the offenders are ok then no problem.

Pleased that she's well but sorry for her team. Makes me wonder what we're trying to encourage in this country.

 

[Jiffie]

Pleased that she's well but sorry for her team. Makes me wonder what we're trying to encourage in this country.

My 17 year old granddaughter actually accompanied several younger people and 1 or 2 older people from the premises, they were too frightened to leave on their own after the police abandoned them.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

By way of an update, the ‘travellers’ have been moved, of course leaving their trail of mess, theft and damage.

On the night of the ‘invasion’ the police left before all of the staff were safely off of the premises. One of the officers told one of the staff not take photographs or videos of what was happening, because it might impinge on the ‘travellers’ ‘human rights’.

‘The travellers’ cowardly hide behind their children, virtually using them as shields, the children’s behaviour beggars belief and should not be accepted in what masquerades as civilised society.

To those who oppose the impending law changes, this is why it is needed, people should not be put in fear like this by mob rule.

They behave like savages because they know they can get away with it, without fear of prosecution or any chance of being fined or having their vehicles scrutinised or impounded and that's exactly what it wants as well. I doubt half of them are taxed, insured or MoT worthy.

 

[Jiffie]

They behave like savages because they know they can get away with it, without fear of prosecution or any chance of being fined or having their vehicles scrutinised or impounded and that's exactly what it wants as well. I doubt half of them are taxed, insured or MoT worthy.

Correct and none of the caravans had legally displayed number plates, why do we allow these 'people' to live outside of the law of the land like this?

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

By way of an update, the ‘travellers’ have been moved, of course leaving their trail of mess, theft and damage.

On the night of the ‘invasion’ the police left before all of the staff were safely off of the premises. One of the officers told one of the staff not take photographs or videos of what was happening, because it might impinge on the ‘travellers’ ‘human rights’.

‘The travellers’ cowardly hide behind their children, virtually using them as shields, the children’s behaviour beggars belief and should not be accepted in what masquerades as civilised society.

To those who oppose the impending law changes, this is why it is needed, people should not be put in fear like this by mob rule.

I am seriously concerned by all this 'woke'-ness and self-loathing that seems to be 'trendy' at the moment.
I'm not JUST concerned about so-called 'minorities' being allowed to get away without obeying the law - or being offended at the slightest thing. It's certainly ruining my faith in my country.

No - my MAIN concern is that if it is allowed to continue, the inevitable backlash could possibly see a HUGE swing the other way - where everything we have fought and died for over the past century; freedom, tolerance, integration and equality - are overturned in favour of an extreme right-wing regime which promises to 'fix' it.
Lets face it; the vast majority of us are NOT racist, obey the law and practice tolerance and inclusion. Sooner or later, this 'silent' majority will become utterly p!553ed off with being labelled as racists etc and being made to feel guilt for something our ancestors did generations back.
If people aren't careful, we could unleash the vile beast of fascism.

If you poke the dog often enough, one day it will turn around and bite you

The evidence is already around us - I'm NOT calling the Tories fascists, but we can see by voting habits - the news is all about protests, BLM and Wokeness but the Tories win by one of the biggest landslides ever. Ordinary people don't like this stuff and vote against it.

 

[Jiffie]

I am seriously concerned by all this 'woke'-ness and self-loathing that seems to be 'trendy' at the moment.
I'm not JUST concerned about so-called 'minorities' being allowed to get away without obeying the law - or being offended at the slightest thing. It's certainly ruining my faith in my country.

No - my MAIN concern is that if it is allowed to continue, the inevitable backlash could possibly see a HUGE swing the other way - where everything we have fought and died for over the past century; freedom, tolerance, integration and equality - are overturned in favour of an extreme right-wing regime which promises to 'fix' it.
Lets face it; the vast majority of us are NOT racist, obey the law and practice tolerance and inclusion. Sooner or later, this 'silent' majority will become utterly p!553ed off with being labelled as racists etc and made to feel guilt for something our ancestors did generations back.
If people aren't careful, we could unleash the vile beast of fascism.

If you poke the dog often enough, one day it will turn around and bite you

You are correct, the police are supposed to operate under the guidelines of dealing with all incidents, 'without fear or favour' sadly that mainstay of British justice disappeared about 20 years ago when they decided that properly dealing with and investigating Asian grooming gangs around the country might be viewed as being racist and that ground has never been recovered since and has filtered into other crimes such as statue toppling etc.

It ain't going to get any better.

PS:- The world has become a strange place, Saint Joe, Saint Barrack and sex pest Clinton all read eulogies at the funeral of a former KKK member turned Democrat politician's funeral, a politician who still had a voting record of voting in favour of policies deemed racist by his own party, imagine if Trump or Boris did that?

 

[Angelicnumber16]

You are correct, the police are supposed to operate under the guidelines of dealing with all incidents, 'without fear or favour' sadly that mainstay of British justice disappeared about 20 years ago when they decided that properly dealing with and investigating Asian grooming gangs around the country might be viewed as being racist and that ground has never been recovered since and has filtered into other crimes such as statue toppling etc.

It ain't going to get any better.

PS:- The world has become a strange place, Saint Joe, Saint Barrack and sex pest Clinton all read eulogies at the funeral of a former KKK member turned Democrat politician's funeral, a politician who still had a voting record of voting in favour of policies deemed racist by his own party, imagine if Trump or Boris did that?

And thanks to Dozy Joe the Americans are also remembering a massacre at Tulsa against blacks which took place eons ago
Funny that aside from Vietnam and Korea the USA have lost no other people of colour, especially blacks in wars to my knowledge
Same goes for over here where no black lives were lost fighting for the UK in the First or Second World war as far as I know. And I'm not including people from India and the sub continent that fought on our side.
Funny how some people just have a selective memory in these frankly ridiculous times we are having to put up with