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Imagine going along to a charging station and spending 30 mins every time on a fast charge, jeez they're either going to need a lot of charging points in the station or there's going to be a big queue up the road. There's a hell of a lot of business drivers out there, that cover hundreds of miles every day. I really cannot invisage how any of this is going to work practically.
It's not, while the numbers remain low it will be workable for private use , when put into practice for industry/companies it will fall short.
 
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It's not, while the numbers remain low it will be workable for private use , when put into practice for industry/companies it will fall short.

Yeah be perfectly fine for private use, but is totally impractical for business users. I suggest Boris goes spend a Friday afternoon anytime after 3pm on the M25, he might see a lot of business drivers. He'll be like, oh well, we can sort it, I'll get Hancock on to it.
 
New meaning for track and trace, for cars that have run out of battery. AA will love it.
 
Yeah be perfectly fine for private use, but is totally impractical for business users. I suggest Boris goes spend a Friday afternoon anytime after 3pm on the M25, he might see a lot of business drivers. He'll be like, oh well, we can sort it, I'll get Hancock on to it.
The whole idea is stupid, the average life of a battery (so far) is 5 years. To replace a battery cost around £8K unless you rent it. Can you imagine telling someone they will have to pay £5K every five years to replace the engine in their car or keep paying every month to rent it <laugh>
 
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The whole idea is stupid, the average life of a battery (so far) is 5 years. To replace a battery cost around £8K unless you rent it. Can you imagine telling someone they will have to pay £5K every five years to replace the engine in their car or keep paying every month to rent it <laugh>

They would completely have to change our culture, and make us use public transport that runs on electric, but again they've overlooked the infastructure. We've been spending the last few decades, building places like Bluewater, while tearing the heart out of our Town Centres. If you want people off the roads, then we need our Town Centres back.
 
I was wondering what we do with the batteries afterwards, surely there will be billions of them worldwide to dispose of.
They’ll be fully recycled at manufacturer plants, there’s test facilities in use now.
 
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Imagine going along to a charging station and spending 30 mins every time on a fast charge, jeez they're either going to need a lot of charging points in the station or there's going to be a big queue up the road. There's a hell of a lot of business drivers out there, that cover hundreds of miles every day. I really cannot invisage how any of this is going to work practically. It's fine for the granny who are poodling around town, but shhite for high milage drivers.
There’s hundreds of charging points already in our motorway service station network and there’ll thousands more going in. The range of the latest EV’s can be 350-400 miles, I’m not sure a bladder has been invented that has that kind of range tbh. Stop at a services have a piss and a bite to eat, job done, you’d be filling up most ICE cars at that kind of range anyway.

They need to achieve a ratio of circa 1 charge point for every 10 EV’s in the coming years, that’s the target,
 
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I'm guessing here, but surely you could charge your car at a charging station and it would have enough charge to get you home and back to another charging station when you need it ?

In the same way that you fill up with fuel to ensure that you've got enough to get home and to wherever you're going the next day.

That said, I have seen people with an extension reel coming out of their house, into a charging cable that's then plugged into their car. That will have loads of old biddies tripping over cables on the pavement though <whistle>

The problem with that approach is we don’t have an electrical infrastructure to support it. The only way it works, IMO, is if the majority of charging is done at “off peak” times.
 
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The problem with that approach is we don’t have an electrical infrastructure to support it. The only way it works, IMO, is if the majority of charging is done at “off peak” times.

If we adopt Ern's plan and cull 3bn people then there shouldn't be such demand on the electrical grid <ok>
 
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The whole idea is stupid, the average life of a battery (so far) is 5 years. To replace a battery cost around £8K unless you rent it. Can you imagine telling someone they will have to pay £5K every five years to replace the engine in their car or keep paying every month to rent it <laugh>
You’re way out of date. VAG have put a guarantee on their batteries that after 8 years / 100,000 miles, they’ll still work at a minimum of 80% original capacity,
 
It’d be rude not to put the founding father of this idea at the pinnacle of it.

I do remember a lecture at university, given by a guy (can’t remember his name) who was a chief scientific advisor to the government, saying that providing sufficient food, as the global population rises, would be of greater concern than the potential lack of fossil fuels.
I don’t remember him advocating a cull, but certainly said that our eating habits, mainly around the food waste, would have to be addressed.
 
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I do remember a lecture at university, given by a guy (can’t remember his name) who was a chief scientific advisor to the government, saying that providing sufficient food, as the global population rises, would be of greater concern than the potential lack of fossil fuels.
I don’t remember him advocating a cull, but certainly said that our eating habits, mainly around the food waste, would have to be addressed.
Get Ern on that one, swap your steak for a locust or you’re literally going to make man extinct .

I reckon he’d rather volunteer a few BN others (not him or his obvs) to be culled before he’d give up a single sausage though.
 
If we adopt Ern's plan and cull 3bn people then there shouldn't be such demand on the electrical grid <ok>
Power up the old coal fired power stations with them, double win <ok>

I think Ern might be an actual Nazi.
 
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But we still seem to be missing the point, millions of people can't park anywhere near their home. I can, Piskie can, you might be able to, but many can't and I've not seen anyone give a solution to how they will resolve that. Even if you use charging stations, it could be a couple of miles from your home, dependent on your location. That's without adding on charging time and the cost of all this.
Do people that live in central London, which is presumably one of the few areas where people don’t have private parking areas, actually need a car close to their house? Presumably they only need the car when they are travelling outside the city. In which case why not go with park and ride schemes on the edges of the city where cars can be stored, charged and ready for the next trip to Cornwall. Similarly have spaces allocated to visitors who park there when visiting London and pick up their car on the way out. Move all car rental offices there as well.
 
Yeah but what if you want to go on a 300 mile journey the next day, charging it to get you home, aint going to help mate, because your be fooked the next morning, and can we honestly see charging points littering all our streets. The idea has not been thought through at all.

You can fast charge up to about 80% in 30 mins, so on a long trip just stop at some services and have a coffee and a dump.

Rest of the time you can top up as you would with petrol at the nearest charging station - it's just a bit slower.

Batteries are rapidly improving too. When I looked into getting an electric car about 3 years ago the cheaper ones had ranges of about 100 to 150 miles and now that's more than doubled on some models.
 
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