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Moving from the plastic debate, my son in law announced he is getting a pass for the new season. He's not a die hard, but has had passes before. He tags onto some friends who are die hards and have restarted going after boycotting, I believe when evicted from E1. Apparently he's one of a few 'not so' diehards in a group of over a dozen who are buying passes. I asked what had changed for those boycotting, he wasn't actually sure but said for him it was a post Covid effect, just wanting to do something with mates after a period of not been able. Obviously that's just one case, but it has got me wondering if membership will rise next season (compared to pre Covid).
He actually claims he is a Liverpool supporter, and no he can't come up with any legitimate reason for supporting Liverpool. I definitely see problems ahead when they start having kids!
 
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The Omega Man said:
I will defend the point although, it isn't the point I was actually making, my last post showed two things, firstly, that empty stands are now filled with cut out plastic pictures of supporters and secondly, that the use of the term appears to be acceptable to the FSA, who I am also a member of.

I have not used the term "Plastic" to describe any supporter in my post. I have not called any supporter a plastic and as far as I know have never implied that in any of my posts. I think you have over reacted.

But I will answer your assumption. I am against football tourism, the sale of tickets to games that are not to genuine supporters, but to visitors from other countries or cities. Sitting in a stand with tourists who do not know that it is Chelsea vs Hull City and they were in the away support, was perhaps one of the worse games that I ever went too. But, some football clubs love to sell tickets to that market. Now if you find the term "Plastic" offensive when used to describe visitors to stadiums, who deprive genuine supporters access to games, fair enough. The money shifted from corporate into tourism in smaller PL clubs.

There is a difference that has to be made, genuine football supporters who live abroad for instance and take a game in. I have nothing against that. It is when a game is part of the tour itinerary that is a problem if genuine supporters then cannot get a ticket.
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You wrote:

“The money is in plastics mate.”

You weren’t referring to plastic figures currently filling stadia, I simply don’t believe that because it doesn’t fit the context of the discussion in any way. You were referring to new fans.

And then you try and claim that I am defending football tourists who attend EPL games but have no interest in either club. FFS of course I wasn’t referring to those people, the context of the discussion makes that obvious. Digging yourself another hole and trying to belittle me for having the temerity to challenge you is really not on.

But for info, I have previously slated James Mooney when he placed City away tickets on resale sites. That has no contextual meaning in this discussion, but you started it.
 
Kinell, who knew you could get such an outpouring of grief just by using a certain word? <laugh>

I'm going to send it to the Allams. I'll write it ten thousand times with my biro.

Heinus, heinous, Heinus.

It's like that Monty Python sketch (the best sketch ever), where the lass gets upset by certain words.

<laugh> For those out there who are offended by the word heinous, I only have one word for you....

HEINOUS! <laugh>
 
Kempton said:
Kinell, who knew you could get such an outpouring of grief just by using a certain word? <laugh>

I'm going to send it to the Allams. I'll write it ten thousand times with my biro.

Heinus, heinous, Heinus.

It's like that Monty Python sketch (the best sketch ever), where the lass gets upset by certain words.

<laugh> For those out there who are offended by the word heinous, I only have one word for you....

HEINOUS! <laugh>
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askewshair said:
Moving from the plastic debate, my son in law announced he is getting a pass for the new season. He's not a die hard, but has had passes before. He tags onto some friends who are die hards and have restarted going after boycotting, I believe when evicted from E1. Apparently he's one of a few 'not so' diehards in a group of over a dozen who are buying passes. I asked what had changed for those boycotting, he wasn't actually sure but said for him it was a post Covid effect, just wanting to do something with mates after a period of not been able. Obviously that's just one case, but it has got me wondering if membership will rise next season (compared to pre Covid).
He actually claims he is a Liverpool supporter, and no he can't come up with any legitimate reason for supporting Liverpool. I definitely see problems ahead when they start having kids!
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that's a shame
I quite liked him too...before
 
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Large Elephant said:
Perhaps you should ask Kempton who used the expression. As I said I was merely quoting him. It may be a bit strong but I still think I know what Kempton meant.
One of the dictionary definitions is 'utterly odious or wicked'. I realise you appear to admire the Allams but you must realise that many don't and probably wouldn't disagree with the definition as applied to them. I think you will also find they have been called worse things.
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Point me in the direction of one post where I "appear to admire the Allams"?? I just think the use of the word 'heinous' is 'hilarious'...Especially from someone who hasn't attended since we dropped out of the Premier League!!
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Point me in the direction of one post where I "appear to admire the Allams"?? I just think the use of the word 'heinous' is 'hilarious'...Especially from someone who hasn't attended since we dropped out of the Premier League!!
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I first attended my very first Hull Tigers game when Hull Tigers played their very first game at the KC Stadium.

I can't actually remember who Hull Tigers played that day, because I wasn't there.

My first away game was at Warrington. I did like their shirts, but I can't remember what colour they were.

By the way, just for the cheese fans, I resently discovered Manchego cheese. It's very nice indeed :emoticon-0125-mmm:
 
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