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I always think it’s a proxy war, US vs Iran with the Palestinians and Israelis used as pawns.

The sooner Iran is wiped off the map, the better for Palestinians.

And shoot JC in the face for bantz.
 
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Serious question mate.. What makes this one any different to any others?

The world has stood still and watched so many.

From about 1/3rd of the population of Cambodia getting killed.
So many times in many African countries
Many times in Arab countries, the Kurds etc.

Why is this one any different?

Why is this one any different you ask?

Seriously?

Don't know mate, but I know a man who might - The fooking dickhead that created the thread.

Enjoy your day.
 
So basically, every time the democratic and peaceful Hamas go into a huff they fire rockets into a sovereign nation and then Israel become the Nazi's reincarnate for returning the gift with added spice to it.

Timeline: How the violence escalated

The worst violence in years between Israel and the Palestinian territory of the Gaza Strip has seen dozens killed. It follows a month of spiralling tensions before open conflict broke out. Here is what happened in the lead-up to the fighting.

13 April

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Image captionIsraeli police officers detain a young Palestinian man at the Damascus GateIMAGE COPYRIGHT BYGETTY IMAGES
Clashes erupt in East Jerusalem between Palestinians and Israeli police.

Palestinians are angry over barriers which had been placed outside the Damascus Gate entrance to the Jerusalem‘s Old City preventing them from gathering there after prayers at the Old City’s al-Aqsa Mosque on what is the first night of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Palestinian discontent had been stoked earlier in the day when President Mahmoud Abbas called off planned elections, implicitly blaming Israel over voting arrangements for Palestinians in East Jerusalem.

Hamas - Mr Abbas' Islamist rivals who control Gaza and were running in the elections - react angrily to the postponement.

Violence around Damascus Gate and elsewhere in East Jerusalem continues nightly.

15-16 April

Rockets are fired from Gaza at Israel, which responds with air strikes after a relative period of calm between Israel and the Palestinian enclave.

19 April

Clashes spread to the mixed Arab-Jewish port city of Jaffa, next to Tel Aviv.

20 April

In Jerusalem, Jewish youths, angry over a spate of filmed assaults by Palestinians on Orthodox Jews posted on the TikTok video-sharing app, attack Arabs and chant anti-Arab slogans.

23 April

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Image captionIsraeli security forces clash with Palestinians outside the Damascus GateIMAGE COPYRIGHT BYGETTY IMAGES
Hundreds of ultra-nationalist Jews shouting “Death to Arabs” march towards Damascus Gate in protest at the Arab assaults on Jews. Clashes erupt at the site between Palestinians and police trying to separate the two groups, injuring dozens of people.

Violence between Arabs and Jews spreads to other parts of the city.

24 April

Militants fire dozens of rockets at Israel from Gaza, drawing retaliatory air strikes.


2 May

President Abbas' Fatah faction and Hamas condemn the looming threatened eviction of Palestinian families from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah district of East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers ahead of a planned court hearing. Hamas calls on Arabs to form “human shields of resistance” there.

In the days that follow, police and protesters repeatedly clash at the site as it becomes a focal point for Palestinian anger.


4 May

Militants in Gaza begin sending incendiary balloons into Israel over successive days, causing dozens of fires.

7 May

Two Palestinian gunmen are shot dead and a third is wounded after opening fire on Israeli security forces in the northern West Bank. Israeli authorities say the group planned to carry out a “major attack” in Israel.

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Image captionThe al-Aqsa mosque has been a frequent flashpoint for violenceIMAGE COPYRIGHT BYGETTY IMAGES
Later on after Friday prayers - the last of Ramadan - major clashes erupt at the al-Aqsa mosque compound, injuring more than 200 people. Israel's police force says it used “riot dispersal means”, firing rubber bullets and stun grenades after officers came under a hail of stones and bottles.

8 May

A second night of violence erupts in East Jerusalem after tens of thousands of worshippers prayed at the al-Aqsa mosque for Laylat al-Qadr, the holiest night of Ramadan.

Police and protesters clash at Damascus Gate, with police using water cannon, rubber bullets and tear gas against crowds of Palestinians, some throwing stones.

More than 120 Palestinians and some 17 police are injured.

9 May

Israel's Supreme Court postpones the hearing on the Sheikh Jarrah case following calls to delay it because of the growing unrest. Tensions remain high though and more clashes take place between Israeli police and Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah and at Damascus Gate.

10 May


Early morning clashes break out between police and Palestinians at the al-Aqsa mosque compound, where crowds throw stones and officers fire stun grenades.

Palestinian anger has been inflamed by an annual Jerusalem Day march planned for later in the day by hundreds of Israeli nationalists to celebrate Israel's capture of East Jerusalem in 1967.

The march is due to pass through predominantly Arab parts of the Old City in what is seen by Palestinians as a deliberate provocation. It is rerouted at the 11th hour, but the atmosphere remains volatile with more than 300 Palestinians and some 21 police injured in the violence at the holy site.

Hamas issues an ultimatum to Israel to “withdraw its soldiers... from the blessed al-Aqsa mosque and Sheikh Jarrah” by 18:00. When the deadline passes without an Israeli response, rockets are fired towards Jerusalem for the first time in years.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the group has “crossed a red line” and Israel retaliates with air strikes, killing three Hamas fighters.

A continuing exchange of rocket-fire and air strikes quickly escalates into the fiercest hostilities between the two sides since they fought a war in 2014.
 
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kinda reminds me of being busted by the local cops in Spain, they took me to the nationals for processing and when the nationals heard what it was for they told them to **** off and let us go.
What were you supposed to have done?
 
i just been reading the latest from sky, (actually whatever happened to sky, the poster?), this ain't letting up any time soon

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-g...nsive-as-further-airstrikes-hit-gaza-12307694

I watched the Al Jazeera news channel last night, they give you information from within side Gaza, whereas SKY were having probs getting reporters in there initially. See the AJ media people scrambling to get their stuff out before the Israeli's stuck a rocket in it. They had exactly one hour. Guy phoned for extention, Israel replied with the rocket bang on time.

Watched a SKY documentary on the 'Arab Spring' also about when Gadaffi was found and killed, and how some of the rebels that gained control, carried out atrocities. One building had about 50 bodies in it, all that was left was the smouldering ashes of them.
 
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Yeah, so many children, indiscriminate firing has to stop.

It’s ****ing horrendous mate. Israel fired a missile at a refuge camp on Friday night killing around 12

How the **** is that a military target ?
 
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I watched the Al Jazeera news channel last night, they give you information from within side Gaza, whereas SKY were having probs getting reporters in there initially. See the AJ media people scrambling to get their stuff out before the Israeli's stuck a rocket in it. They had exactly one hour. Guy phoned for extention, Israel replied with the rocket bang on time.

Watched a SKY documentary on the 'Arab Spring' also about when Gadaffi was found and killed, and how some of the rebels that gained control, carried out atrocities. One building had about 50 bodies in it, all that was left was the smouldering ashes of them.
I sometimes watch al jazeera, probably the best channel in these situations.
 
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It’s ****ing horrendous mate. Israel fired a missile at a refuge camp on Friday night killing around 12

How the **** is that a military target ?
To be fair mate, Hamas are launching a **** load also, just the IDF are shooting most down.

But a refuge camp, well that's a big no no
 
I watched the Al Jazeera news channel last night, they give you information from within side Gaza, whereas SKY were having probs getting reporters in there initially. See the AJ media people scrambling to get their stuff out before the Israeli's stuck a rocket in it. They had exactly one hour. Guy phoned for extention, Israel replied with the rocket bang on time.

Watched a SKY documentary on the 'Arab Spring' also about when Gadaffi was found and killed, and how some of the rebels that gained control, carried out atrocities. One building had about 50 bodies in it, all that was left was the smouldering ashes of them.
The gadasfi thing really boils my blood. Not that I know if he was a tyrant or not. That's not what I'm on about.... it's how the Yanks dropped weapons off to rebels and basically made then do thier dirty work for them.

Saddam hung on tape.

Gadaffi the same right?

Bin laden dumped at sea with no cameras present<laugh>

The yanks will end this world I'm telling ya, or be the cause of it.
 
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To be fair mate, Hamas are launching a **** load also, just the IDF are shooting most down.

But a refuge camp, well that's a big no no

yep they are. It’s ****ing madness.

@C Kane posted a detailed comment last night that summed it up. He explained that whilst the west pushes for a two state solution, there are factions in Israel and Palestine who don’t want that, they just want to wipe each other out.
 
yep they are. It’s ****ing madness.

@C Kane posted a detailed comment last night that summed it up. He explained that whilst the west pushes for a two state solution, there are factions in Israel and Palestine who don’t want that, they just want to wipe each other out.
Yes mate, i was online at the time, and noted that you asked him to explain a bit more, but it was late and he probably went to kip, he seems very knowledgeable about this situation.

ps ya still can't tag<laugh>
 
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The gadasfi thing really boils my blood. Not that I know if he was a tyrant or not. That's not what I'm on about.... it's how the Yanks dropped weapons off to rebels and basically made then do thier dirty work for them.

Saddam hung on tape.

Gadaffi the same right?

Bin laden dumped at sea with no cameras present<laugh>

The yanks will end this world I'm telling ya, or be the cause of it.

Gadaffi was beaten to death and paraded around on the back of a pick up truck
 
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