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First of all, you quoted KingHotspur back at me, which is not only odd because I had already read that comment - hence I replied to it - but the fact you can't seem to remember this doesn't exactly help your argument

Secondly, you see that part where you say that Leicester won something, then failed to come close to sustaining that form? Yeah, that's what is known as "Exactly what I have said from the beginning", hence I keep referring back to the No Man's Land between Point A and Point B and you seem to...let me check...yup, you just keep on ignoring that part even though it's the basis of my argument, which is definitely going to have me taking you seriously the longer you keep responding

Thirdly, are you really going to start playing Top Trumps now? In the period where we've gone through two managers, would you like to tell me how many Leicester have gone though? Here, let me tell you: three. Ranieri was sacked a few months into the season after winning the league, Claude Puel came in for a couple of seasons and it's not an exaggeration to say that he was a disaster, and then they hired Rodgers. Why do I bring this up? Because my argument is specifically the Claude Puel part of that time period, the part you pretended didn't happen, which takes me back to the simple question: do you think Spurs fans would be happy if, in the two years after winning the league, they'd gone through two caretakers and a bloke who lost more games than they won? Because I can answer that one for you: no

What is delusional is you thinking you have a grasp of the mindset of Spurs fans, or to be more accurate the section of Spurs fans looking for an excuse to lose their ****, even though it is abundantly clear that you don't even when I actually spell this out for you several times, because you've decided to double down on being a moaning sod who isn't interested in actually engaging in something known as "adult conversation" and instead want to monologue about something you have no understanding of but want to pretend that you're an expert on even though, by this point, all you're really doing is justifying my calling it the Pond Life board for a couple of years at least by this point due to it being filled with people who can't engage in this thing called "adult conversation" because they want to be a bunch of sneering bores who simply cannot accept that they're talking ****e even though that's all the board exists for

So when I tell you that if Spurs won the league then ended up finishing seventh that will see a section of the fanbase - one that KingHotspur just so happens to represent - losing their ****, I'm not doing it out of speculation, I'm doing it because that section of the fanbase has a track record of taking any excuse to kick off another moaning campaign, for example one summer when we sold our fourth-choice RB who had the grand total of one sub appearance in the first team as a sign that we were going to be selling Harry Kane, Son Heung-min and Christian Eriksen that summer because something something Levy Out, which is the exact sort of reactionary claptrap we rip the piss out of AFTV over

The point is that strawman arguments and getting arsey when I point out you're talking crap isn't going to help me, and I'm perfectly fine with that. In fact, I'll just sit here knowing what I'm talking about and doing so to anyone who'''...well "listen" isn't the word as that's clearly not happening, but it looks like the Sunny D is wearing off on a few of them so I'll just sit right here and wait and see who else wants to keep missing the bloody point
Great wall of txt that said absolutely nothing.

No, Leicester supporters were not happy with Puel in the same way that Spurs fans weren't happy (by majority) with Jose.

The discussion is not about who's fans were happier with certain managers, it's about which club has had the better last 5 seasons.
Explain how a perceived top 6 club "pushing" or "coming close" has had a better 5 seasons than a "plucky little club" winning 2 major trophies over the same period.

I honestly admire your dedication to the Spurs cause but can't help laughing at the delusion you display whilst defending it.
 
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Tripps was a baller up until his final season and I won’t hear anything less!
I can't remember who said it about Aurier having value for PSG more than he does for us, barring games against teams so utterly shambolic as Sheff Utd a couple of weeks back, but Aurier is a player who would be great for us in European games but a bloody liability in at least 50% of PL games which is why Trippier was handy to have around (or the idea of Matt Doherty, not so much the reality of Matt Doherty)

The problem is that the last eighteen months have demonstrated why having a FB for PL games would have been a really, really good idea since at this point I'm fairly sure our U18s would target us down our right flank knowing they'd likely get some joy out of it, as pretty much everyone else has
 
Great wall of txt that said absolutely nothing.

No, Leicester supporters were not happy with Puel in the same way that Spurs fans weren't happy (by majority) with Jose.

The discussion is not about who's fans were happier with certain managers, it's about which club has had the better last 5 seasons.
Explain how a perceived top 6 club "pushing" or "coming close" has had a better 5 seasons than a "plucky little club" winning 2 major trophies over the same period.

I honestly admire your dedication to the Spurs cause but can't help laughing at the delusion you display whilst defending it.
Actually it says a lot, starting with how Tobes' entire argument is complete bollocks, before reinforcing what my argument was that they insist on ignoring time and time again until they did the decent thing and "had" to say they didn't read my post underlining just how much bollocks they're talking as if that is a valid response

Also, it has to be said there's a deep flaw with your Puel/ubermensch comparison: when Leicester's form was bottoming out in Ranieri's final months their fans weren't demanding Puel, however when our form was bottoming out under Poch the reactionaries were demanding the ubermensch very loudly

That's my biggest gripe about our ex-manager: the people loudly demanding him really need to own their ****, as all the turgid football we played, all the toxicity in the squad, all the tactical seppuku from December-April does fall on them all because they're like Gollum where the mere mention of a trophy has them hissing from the shadows. In comparison, I don't think Leicester fans responded to their form dropping in Ranieri's last days by loudly demanding the club bring in Roberto Mancini or whoever

As I have said, the key word is "sustained", as any club can have a season where things come together and then they percolate into midtable for three or four seasons, because the latter is why you use the phrase "plucky little club" to describe Leicester instead of a club who, at the start of the season, was heavily-tipped to be in the Top 6 and have gone above due to various clubs being remarkably courteous with not getting in their way
 
Fair point. But you could have made exactly the same point if they had finished second in the league five years back and lost today because that would have been way above expectations. Neither Everton or Spurs have won much this century but I think our strategy is way superior to yours because we have improved a lot over the twenty years and you've stagnated. If you had won the FA Cup a few times that wouldn't really alter my view.
I wouldn’t argue about the comparison between us and Spurs, but neither of us have won a thing either. Personally I find it embarrassing that my club have failed to win a pot for 26 years, and seeing the likes of Lesta rock up and win the biggest 2 domestic pots in the space of 5 years, from where they started from only 13 years ago only makes that worse tbh. Only I don’t begrudge them their success, and it’d not try and create some odd narrative that our longevity somehow usurped their recent additions to their trophy cabinet, neither would I argue that if we were in your shoes we’d somehow had the better of the last 5 years, as BHIC has done here, primarily as it’s a laughable position. I’d argue we were the bigger club, but that means nothing in terms of recent tangible success.
 
Beat this ... fresh from today ... call it a performance measure ...

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... I'll wait <cheers>
First of all, maybe look up what the word "undersized" means, because that one clearly isn;t

Secondly

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Always good to stick with the classics, especially when you insist on keeping them so relevant
 
First of all, maybe look up what the word "undersized" means, because that one clearly isn;t

Secondly

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Always good to stick with the classics, especially when you insist on keeping them so relevant

You're a fruit cake mate ... that's a pic of my mate's daughter who works in marketing / PR at the club and sent this to her dad earlier this evening (and him to me and a bunch of us) ... poignant for me as I was at her christening ... and was at Uni with her dad (and mum) ... levels. <cheers>
 
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Actually it says a lot, starting with how Tobes' entire argument is complete bollocks, before reinforcing what my argument was that they insist on ignoring time and time again until they did the decent thing and "had" to say they didn't read my post underlining just how much bollocks they're talking as if that is a valid response

Also, it has to be said there's a deep flaw with your Puel/ubermensch comparison: when Leicester's form was bottoming out in Ranieri's final months their fans weren't demanding Puel, however when our form was bottoming out under Poch the reactionaries were demanding the ubermensch very loudly

That's my biggest gripe about our ex-manager: the people loudly demanding him really need to own their ****, as all the turgid football we played, all the toxicity in the squad, all the tactical seppuku from December-April does fall on them all because they're like Gollum where the mere mention of a trophy has them hissing from the shadows. In comparison, I don't think Leicester fans responded to their form dropping in Ranieri's last days by loudly demanding the club bring in Roberto Mancini or whoever

As I have said, the key word is "sustained", as any club can have a season where things come together and then they percolate into midtable for three or four seasons, because the latter is why you use the phrase "plucky little club" to describe Leicester instead of a club who, at the start of the season, was heavily-tipped to be in the Top 6 and have gone above due to various clubs being remarkably courteous with not getting in their way
I used that term as a piss take because you seem to think their wins are just flukes, they are not.
Leicester have become a regular force in the PL and i am prepared to guess that most opposition supporters would rather face Spurs in an important game than Leicester.
 
You're a fruit cake mate ... that's a pic of my mate's daughter who works in marketing / PR at the club and sent this to her dad earlier this evening (and him to me and a bunch of us) ... poignant for me as I was at her christening ... and was at Uni with her dad (and mum) ... levels. <cheers>
So you're saying that it's not an undersized photo from Google

Which is what I was saying we were posting

Please, just once, stop acting like a child and try and keep track with a conversation. It helps, really it does
 
The real question is on the Pond Life board to send the rabble over

Gee, I hope it wasn't somebody who has previous for this...
I think @Tobes has already linked the two posts together for you.
As far as i know nobody has quoted or mentioned anything about this thread outside of this thread, paranoia is a dangerous condition.
 
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I think @Tobes has already linked the two posts together for you.
As far as i know nobody has quoted or mentioned anything about this thread outside of this thread, paranoia is a dangerous condition.
This isn't true. It was posted and tagged repeatedly on the Prem board.
 
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I used that term as a piss take because you seem to think their wins are just flukes, they are not.
Leicester have become a regular force in the PL and i am prepared to guess that most opposition supporters would rather face Spurs in an important game than Leicester.
When did I say they were flukes? I said they were a case of everything falling into place, and there's a big difference between the two things. That's why I brought up Wimbledon way back when: nobody can say their winning the FA Cup was a fluke (well, maybe some embittered Mousers do, but anyway...) because everything fell into place that day

As for rival fans, that depends: in 2018 rival fans would absolutely have preferred to face Leicester than us because Claude Puel was doing a rotten job, so to say they have become a force is simply not true as the midpoint between Trophy A and Trophy B they were one of the midtable pack with a manager getting the worst out of them

Now this season is a different matter, in no small part because rival teams figured out how easy it was to snuff us out in midfield because our transition play was horribly predictable and all they had to do after that was wait for Dier or Aurier to have another brainfart, but it also has to be said that rivals fans don't look forward to playing us in key games - more than we dread facing other teams in key games given our habit of knowing a win would take us into the Top 4 or close enough to it and we **** it up every time
 
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