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question for athiests

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Sam Axe

    Sam Axe Active Member

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    Good post. I wouldn't say I am religious but I do believe in God but I don't believe a lot of what Christianity teaches and I believe what Science has to say about the origins of Man and the world. I think that Religion and Science can coexist and even help each other if people in both camps would open their mind, Einstein said it best when he said 'Religion without science is blind, science without religion is lame'.

    As for your question on how God was created, I have no idea but I still have faith that he exists and I welcome people who challenge/question religion because how else are we supposed to learn anything. There are people on both sides of the argument that annoy me, namely those who believe they are right without even considering the point of view of the other side.
     
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  2. Jerel Ifil

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    Perhaps you could explain that bit for me. I don't understand it at all.
     
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  3. Sam Axe

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    What Einstein meant by that is religion and science should not be at odds with each other but that they should work together in unlocking the mysteries of the Universe
     
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  4. Mind The Duck

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    I don't know if this point has been argued, but why did God have to have a creator? It's a common atheist question but I think its the same as asking "who created anger".....its not created...it just exists

    Also, "if Gods real why doesn't he prove it".
    Why should he? Scientists don't interfere too much in the habitats of species they are investigating

    Besides, he let the Angels know where he lived and that got a bit out of hand didn't it...
     
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  5. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Do you religious types think making stuff up helps your argument?
     
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  6. Mind The Duck

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    Scientists don't leave animals in natural habitats for observation only then? Attenborough you lying ****.
     
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  7. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Some do. But how do you think scientists collect invertebrates in rainforest habitats? Or creatures in the oceans?
     
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  8. EDGE

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    God helps them
     
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  9. Mind The Duck

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    Do you think they put them back afterwards?
     
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  11. Mind The Duck

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    Aliens do
     
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    Mind the Step I asked the question "Who, or what, created God?" because I was once approached by an American Christian who actually asked me the same question that started this thread. When I said I was an atheist and believed in The Big Bang Theory he challenged me to prove it so I asked him who created God and for my troubles was denounced as an agent of the Devil. I therefore believe my question to be a valid one and your response of "Who created anger?" as being somewhat silly I'm sorry to say.
     
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  13. Mind The Duck

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    Sorry if it sounds silly, though my alien comment didn't get the same critique.

    I am struggling to explain what I'm getting at I suppose...

    Ok, you are arguing a case for no god in the same way you would argue over a scientific problems ...start, middle, end....1+1=2

    That makes sense because that's how things work here on earth

    What if theoretically, in heaven, there is no "start"

    Time is a measurement we use for everything as it effects everything

    God is accepted as timeless, never ending....yet everything else ends

    So why should it be assumed that there should be a "start" for God

    Confused much
     
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  14. The Raging Oxter

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    That's a cop out of an answer MTS. It's the usual kind of vague answer god botherers give because they know there's no way you can counter it. You are actually postulating a theory for which no evidence exists and for which you cannot even measure.
     
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  15. RAVENBLACK

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    Look nobody actually gives two ****s what you think about anything.

    So **** off and die and do us all (and yourself) a favour.

    Boring ****in twat.
     
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  16. RAVENBLACK

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    <laugh><laugh> Hypocritical twat.
     
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  17. The Raging Oxter

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  18. Mind The Duck

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    No discussion, just ridicule

    The atheist way
     
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  19. Hugh Briss

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    From the self-confessed "I get under your skin" merchant... <laugh>

    It's a sin.
     
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  20. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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