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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Do I believe Johnson made those crude statements? I don't want to believe that the leader of our country said such things but unfortunately, as we see on a daily basis, he doesn't give a **** about the people.of the UK, he's just bothered about himself and his close allies.
     
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  2. ELLERS

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    What a load of bollox re Johnson. Waste of newspaper.
     
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  3. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

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    It’s really not, the general public should be informed of the prime minister’s horrific comments, actions and plethora of lies.
     
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  4. Quite Possibly Raving

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    Who knows. Seems impossible to predict which stories break outside of the Westminster bubble and hit home with people and which people seem to shrug off.
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    Maybe we should pull down a statue or deface public buildings. You post a recording of Boris saying that and we can then discuss.
     
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  6. Stroller

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    With Johnson there are plenty to choose from.
     
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  7. rangercol

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    Do you always believe what Cummings says?
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    He proudly made a speech about how a country needed to be brave enough to stand up to Covid and take on the economic opportunity of other countries being locked down. When it’s been discussed before you’ve predictably made an embarrassing cheerleader of yourself.
     
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  9. Stroller

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    Absolutely not, but this has been confirmed by two other sources.

    Aside from that, I'd believe pretty much anyone over Johnson.
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    Cummings was public enemy No 1. I remember a certain poster on here that spent every other post on DC... however because it suits certain peoples agenda DM is a top guy who now tells the truth. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Has anyone said he’s a top guy?
     
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  14. bobmid

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    I don't think that's the case to be fair Ellers. I'm pretty sure everyone thinks Cummings is a twat, even those who didn't mind his escapade up north will now see him as a twat also. Its a funny situation for that reason. If he is totally full of **** then Johnson backed him knowing so. If his comments about Johnson are true then the little twat will have an ace up his sleeve somewhere, probably evidence and just waiting for Johnson to embarrass himself further. Let's be honest, nobody can justify the statement he Is accused of saying and he would have to resign, which would surely be a good thing firstly for the country and secondly for the Tory party.
     
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  15. kiwiqpr

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    Goldman Sachs sees UK recovery outpacing the U.S. this year
    Published Mon, Apr 26 20218:03 AM EDTUpdated 4 Hours Ago
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    Key Points
    • The U.K.‘s flash composite purchasing managers’ index reading for April surged to 60 from 56.4 in March, its highest level since November 2013.
    • Retail sales also beat expectations in March to climb 5.4% from the previous month, while a GfK survey showed British consumer sentiment this month rising to its highest point since the pandemic.
    • Goldman Sachs has now upped its growth forecast to a “striking” 7.8% for 2021.
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    Goldman Sachs has upgraded its forecasts for the U.K. economy in 2021, and now sees it outpacing the U.S.

    The U.K.‘s flash composite purchasing managers’ index reading for April surged to 60 from 56.4 in March, its highest level since November 2013 and a far sharper incline than anticipated, as the country embarks on a phased exit from nationwide lockdown measures.


    Retail sales also vastly outstripped expectations in March to climb 5.4% from the previous month, while a GfK survey showed British consumer sentiment this month rising to its highest point since the pandemic.


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    “Moreover, Covid case growth has remained low and the vaccine roll-out has surged ahead, with half of the population vaccinated. We therefore see the government’s reopening plans as on track, with phase 3 to start on May 17,” Goldman chief European economist Sven Jari Stehn said in a research note Sunday night.

    “As a result, we expect very strong growth in the April and May data, and remain comfortable with our 5.5% (not annualized) growth forecast for Q2,” Stehn added.

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    Almost 33.7 million people have now received their first vaccine dose in the U.K., with daily Covid-19 cases falling steadily to 1,712 on Sunday.

    Monthly GDP in the U.K. increased 0.4% in February, roughly in line with expectations, but following recent upward revisions to real GDP and last week’s strong indicators, Goldman Sachs has now upped its growth forecast to a “striking” 7.8% for the whole of 2021.


    In February, the Wall Street titan upped its forecasts for U.S. growth in 2021 to 6.8%, while the International Monetary Fund currently projects 6.4% growth in the U.S. and 5.3% in the U.K.

    The U.K. economy shrank by 9.9% in 2020, according to the Office for National Statistics, its largest annual contraction since the Great Frost of 1709 as the country was forced into strict lockdown measures for longer periods than many of its European peers.

    U.S. GDP shrank 3.5% in 2020, the largest decline since 1946, when the U.S. demobilized after World War II.

    Detachment of mobility from GDP
    Stehn’s view was supported over the weekend by JPMorgan economist Allan Monks, who noted that a gradual detachment of mobility measures from economic performance bodes well for the U.K.’s economic recovery. This would mean that the country’s GDP growth is more likely to remain on course even without a full return to office working and unencumbered travel.

    “The linkage between the two has weakened over time, in sectors involving both higher and lower levels of social contact. But the relationship involving workplace mobility and the broader economy, i.e., where social contact is the lowest, is the weakest,” Monks said in a research note.

    “Together with survey evidence of sharp increases in both household and business expectations for the future, this raises our confidence that a significant GDP rebound is possible without a full normalization in mobility.”
     
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  16. Quite Possibly Raving

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    Turns out Brexit was just one big plot from the vegans to get Europe away from dairy.

     
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  17. kiwiqpr

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    Carrie Symonds is a terrible Prime Minister.
     
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  18. ELLERS

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    To be fair Bob do you or anyone else have a recording of Boris making that statement? The answer is no, so someone who doesn't like Boris said he made that statement... mmm alarm bells starting to ring. I don't believe this rubbish for one minute. Certain elements have been trying to have a pop at Boris in recent weeks... decorations/comment's/DC and it just stinks of a joint attack on him. they also tried it with Hancock and those shares but that went away because it was another poor attempt to discredit the government.
    As for Cummings... He has always been a loose cannon who doesn't like government or other offices. He did well for the Brexit campaign but made a dick of himself at the castle. He made many enemies during his time and blames them for his exit. He is just trying to get a bit of payback.
    This is all to do with Brexit and the hammering of Labour at the last election. Certain elements are trying to discredit the government because they know Starmer will never beat the tories. Supported by the London elite MSM they will try anything and everything.
    What is more important is that the country is on its way back and the vaccine roll out has been a huge success.
     
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  19. ELLERS

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    Every day the Independent post a negative Brexit story. I think I have seen similar stories a few weeks back. laughable.
     
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  20. Willhoops

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    Very childish comment. Sounds like deflection from the criticism of Johnson
     
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