Ebenezer Cobb Morley
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Hardaker was known for his xenophobia and insular thinking. It was his decision to boycott Chelsea's attempt to enter the first ever European Cup competition in 1955 when Secretary of the Football League. His understanding of dealing with football in Europe amounted to "Too many wogs and Dagoes", which he conveyed to a Times journalist.
Hardaker was known for his xenophobia and insular thinking. It was his decision to boycott Chelsea's attempt to enter the first ever European Cup competition in 1955 when Secretary of the Football League. His understanding of dealing with football in Europe amounted to "Too many wogs and Dagoes", which he conveyed to a Times journalist.
Possibly, but they have courted Larkin at all costs, remember the toads, also we have Clive Sullivan way, Roger Millward way, neither born in Hull, a statue of Jack Harrison all Rugby legends in this City, but no acknowledgement of any past City players as I recall, until we made the Premiership, then they really got on board, but no real effort for a permanent honour.
I rather like Philip Larkin.
He may be a racist, misogynistic, grumpy, miserable, two timing, son of a nazi, bicycle riding, nihilistic, pornography loving, middle class, Newland Ave dwelling, toad mower.
But he's our racist, misogynistic, grumpy, miserable, two timing, son of a nazi, bicycle riding, nihilistic, pornography loving, middle class, Newland Ave dwelling, toad mower.
Acknowledging the fact that he came from Coventry obviously.
He was good at the poeting game too.
Not as good as Red Top Reader but a half decent poet nonetheless.
The verse that is always quoted in answer to that question comes from the mid sixties:
Prison for strikers,
Bring back the cat,
Kick out the n*****s,
How about that?
Trade with the Empire,
Ban the Obscene,
Lock up the Commies,
God Save the Queen.
He wasn't alone in that opinion though. Either at the time or now.
Me Dad would have said exactly the same, only it wouldn't have rhymed and it would have had more swearing in it.
I actually love Larkin's poetry.
I keep his collected works on my bedside table.
When he was dying I was a porter in the hospital he was in. Nuffield down Westbourne Ave.
He was a massive cricket fan.
Waxed lyrical about David Gower.
Should have written a poem about him.
I think it's unfair to call Hardaker a racist because of a couple of dodgy quotes he is said to have made in the early 60's.
It was a very different world then and the issue wasn't as controversial as it is today. Ron Atkinson tripped up using one word that was common in the 60's off air in a different era and it virtually ruined him. I doubt if Hardaker was the FL secretary today or Atkinson was still a top football manager that either of them would have used that language, but it was common place then, just look back at the old sit coms on the telly from that time.
The original point of this thread was the lack of recognition to the old Anlaby Road ground and from that came the Hardaker and Cobb Morley lack of recognition in the city,
I don't think it has to be a statue either. I simple blue civic plaque would be sufficient, and that has been my argument for years. These plaques have been put on houses were actors and writers lived for a couple of years, even on the railway station were the Spiders from Mars caught a train ! The bee keeper's plaque is on Newland Park in honour of someone who wrote a book on bee keeping FFS.
Yet the site of Boothferry Park which saw all the big crowds this city has ever had, some of the greatest footballers in the World played,, a place where Internationals were played, a place that hosted some of the very first floodlit games against European competition and the very spot where the first game to be decided by penalty kicks in the World was played cannot even be mentioned by name on the new housing estate which stands there, never mind a blue plaque. The same principles apply to the old Anlaby Road ground and the birthplaces of Hardaker, Cobb Morley and where Pat O'Connell lived in. Look up the history of Barcelona FC and see how they honour a bloke who played for Hull City and lived off Princes Avenue. No apparent will to erect plaques to recognise football in this city but we fall over blue plaques on houses were people from the world of show business lived for a brief spell. We even have a statue of Ronnie Hilton. I'll leave that for someone else to question the wisdom behind that one.
You wait until Arthur Bunting pegs it.
Definitely different times.
His letters to Kingsley Amis, as well as other correspondence, contained remarks that would be questionable when held under the lens of modern acceptance.
Re-interpreting the morals of the long dead in a modern light? It may be futile but it keeps plenty of academics in work.
And what would they do it they lost their jobs?
It's not as if they could contribute to society in any meaningful way.
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When and hopefully not soon Chris Chilton passes, there better be a substantial honour in this City to him, at the very least a statue at the Circle.
I wouldn’t dispute that HCC appears to favour the rugby over City, but Raich Carter Way predates our Prem days doesn’t it?
I tend to agree but we soon wont be able to move for statues if this becomes the norm. I always thought the club should have something decent in the foyer to honour Andy Davidson. A decent portrait or something. Likewise some of the great players of our past. Instead of the ridiculous banners pinned up on the East Stand concourse, if you can still remember them, how about some action shots of some our great players in recognition? Something to be proud of.
Those splendid banners, one of which celebrates a Leeds goal? Yes I remember them, sadly
Needler land and at the time the talk and some plans were that any new stadium would be in that area.
My favourite was, at the time, Pearson Park. I even convinced a couple of dim RL fans that the council had plans to add 'Adam' to the name of the park. I think one of them rang up Radio Humberside to complain.
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Agreed .
Every club has a statue these days..
Make sure it's well away from the stylish plinth of a VC winner near the entrance.
Can't compete with stuff like that.
Put up and the idea of someone at City who supported Everton and now works for Leeds Utd.
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Almost four years ago, in other news Mr Mcmillan will spend this weekend at Chequers!
You wait until Arthur Bunting pegs it.[/QUOTE]
Almost four years ago, in other news Mr Mcmillan will spend this weekend at Chequers!
I spent a great deal of time trying to bring the copy of the first rule book to exhibit in Hull.
DMD will remember a plan to row from London to Hull just as Cobb Morley had done.
Members of this forum tried contacting the FA and we even had a banner done.
The fact is that, no one wants to know really. They simply do not give a toss.
There is a plaque and that is it. The museum has done an exibition and that is seen as enough. Whilst to your face people who could help, will say it is very interesting, in reality they cannot be bothered.
DMD will remember a plan to row from London to Hull just as Cobb Morley had done.
Members of this forum tried contacting the FA and we even had a banner done.
The fact is that, no one wants to know really. They simply do not give a toss.
There is a plaque and that is it. The museum has done an exibition and that is seen as enough. Whilst to your face people who could help, will say it is very interesting, in reality they cannot be bothered.
J Arthur Rank has a blue plaque doesn't he? I assume for services to the entertainment industry.......