Northern Ireland troubles ...

... are just young people with nowt better to do.

They use religion and politics as an excuse.

 

Personally I'd shoot them all with very large amounts of **** e as we're obviously not allowed to use live ammunition any more.

 

History is complicated. But what we are seeing now is moronic

 

Until the Irish Catholics accept the outcome of the Battle of the Boyne (it was fought in 1690 ffs) we will not see much change.
Today’s morons probably don’t know the history, they just feed on the poison that has been perpetuated down the generations - can’t see how the chain will be broken - sad really.

 

completely agree, politics & religion are just useful shields to hide behind whilst crime and money are whats behind this latest flare-up. No coincidence that a massive police operation targetting drug smuggling had just begun when trouble erupted on the streets again.

 

Spot on, the “Troubles” made many people from both sides of the equation very rich and the introduction of border control will have had an effect on their “business”. The current bother is orchestrated sabre rattling and will be used in an attempt to exert further control and prevent interference in their illegal activities.

As @malagamackem says history is complicated, and Irish history is much more than just Unionism or Nationalism. The current situation is madness and my heart goes out to the decent people who dread the return of any sort of trouble to their streets.

 

well said mate nailed it

 

another spot on post time for Boris to grow a backbone for this one

 

Good points, Blair and Clinton used billions of £££ 's to secure their 'peace agreement' legacy but in truth they bought off a ****load of powerful people who settled down and enjoyed that free money. Now years later their children and grandchildren have looked at recent history and concluded that, actually crime does (did) pay in this instance, and maybe a resurgence of the 'troubles' could bring about a similar bounty. I think we'll see more violence in Ireland as they test the waters to see what the government offer as peace incentives. It's blackmail, pure and simple, but it worked last time, so they'll try it again. Absolutely **** all to do with historical issues, and all about gangsterism.

 

I completely agree

 

our forces were sold down the river carried out orders, peace made then Ira known murderers can't be touched but the military can be pursued by shysters

 

One place I vowed I'd never return to, Belfast absolute **** tip, frequented by some very unsavoury characters.

 

im stum about that

 

Reminds me of university in the 70's when I had 2 mates from Belfast, one protestant and the other catholic, they lived not far from each other but no way could they meet up at home.
One of them, Ken Reid, became a journalist, so just looked him up and never realised how well known he became as a political correspondent.
I always remember a lad from my course who asked him, "Are you a christian?" the reply was "No I'm a ****ing rangers supporter".

 

It was only a matter of time with them being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Loyalist community also miffed at the authorities turning a blind eye to the mass gathering at an IRA funeral. Not sure why the Republicans are also kicking off for mind.

 

Excellent post

 

As far as I can see, the only solution to avoiding a border in the Irish sea is for the UK to join the customs union, which I believe is also tied to free movement of people in the EU.
Johnson lying about no border has not helped.

 

Apparently there’s a whole generation growing up with stories of the troubles and they feel like they’ve missed out on the excitement so are trying to start their own chapter in the story of Norn Irn.

That and the crime bosses and racketeers who no longer have an income.

 

100% that is spot on. I would love to tell some of the stuff I saw there, but won't as it would be seen as inflammatory. I would though back up the view that politics and religion are the front for organised crime and money laundering. IMHO

 

This applies to a huge swathe of society generally. Especially the narcissist generation we have today. Everybody wants to be seen to have marched for something or other(it's the being seen to be doing it that matters, of course, not the cause itself), and the bar for kicking off is ludicrously low these days for some people.