Foreign TV rights - should we be able to sell our own ??

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Liverpool already spend about twice as much as Spurs on wages so any more money would probably also be pissed up the wall on substandard players and their huge wages.

Hope that's not too ambigyouarse.

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Um, during your recent successes you've broken the transfer record ten times. Please don't insult the rest of us by claiming Man Utd are poor.

Three times. Cole, Veron and Ferdinand. But don't let fahkts get in the way of a good rant <ok>

And if you were reading correctly, you'd have seen that I was talking about Busby and Shankly. It's all about the fahkts...
 
'Chelsea think they are a big club just because they are owned by a Russian crook thats well known to be involved with the Russian Mafia, and if he returns to Russia will be sent to a Siberian prison for tax evasion. '

Abramovich went to Moscow for an art gallery exhibiton in Moscow with his partner Dasha.

Calm down, El Nina, he made it back fine.

So tranquilla my little pocket picker.
 
Three times. Cole, Veron and Ferdinand. But don't let fahkts get in the way of a good rant <ok>

And if you were reading correctly, you'd have seen that I was talking about Busby and Shankly. It's all about the fahkts...

How about Rooney?
Veron?
Keane?
Pallister?
I noticed how Swarbs deliberately left those out. The record in 1987 would have been £3 million if Ferguson had to have been successful in signing Peter Beardsley, the same Peter Beardsley that Ron Atkinson let go in 1984 on a free.
Ferguson hasn't learnt from that. He is interested in Ryan Shawcross, he is willing to pay Stoke £20 million..Thats £18 million more than he sold him to Stoke for.
 
How about Rooney?
Veron?
Keane?
Pallister?
I noticed how Swarbs deliberately left those out. The record in 1987 would have been £3 million if Ferguson had to have been successful in signing Peter Beardsley, the same Peter Beardsley that Ron Atkinson let go in 1984 on a free.
Ferguson hasn't learnt from that. He is interested in Ryan Shawcross, he is willing to pay Stoke £20 million..Thats £18 million more than he sold him to Stoke for.

He didn't leave Veron out, mate.
 
How about Rooney?
Veron?
Keane?
Pallister?
I noticed how Swarbs deliberately left those out. The record in 1987 would have been £3 million if Ferguson had to have been successful in signing Peter Beardsley, the same Peter Beardsley that Ron Atkinson let go in 1984 on a free.
Ferguson hasn't learnt from that. He is interested in Ryan Shawcross, he is willing to pay Stoke £20 million..Thats £18 million more than he sold him to Stoke for.

It was actually Liverpool who broke the British record for a player when they signed Beardsley in 1987 for £1.9m. And broke the wages record when they put Barnes on 4k a week. And signed Aldridge and Houghton for record fees and wages. They bought success in 87, signing the best attackers in the Div 1.
 
Elpistoleros - you are being a bit of an idiot really, I mean, the debate was going well then you decide to be the oaf.

To claim Arsenal are nobodies because we haven't won the European Cup/Champions league is mind boggling. Players would leave Liverpool to play for Arsenal .. not the other way round. Liverpool have been in massive decline for the past 15 years and for a club your size, to not have won your domestic league for over 20 years is embarrassing ! forget our silly blip this season, Arsenal are far more of a threat domestically and in Europe than Liverpool, this is proven over the past 15 years. I suggest you stop living in the past, Liverpool are no threat and they won't be for years, do not kid yourself you are on Arsenal, Chelsea or Man U's level. when you consistently finish in front of us then I will accept that you are.

Regarding the original question, YES Man U and Liverpool earned the right to have greater followers and therefore greater income but whilst football is run like a business .. it is still a sport, lets not lose sight of this fact. Remove competition what kind of sport do we have ? In any sport where one person dominates the sport loses it's appeal. We don't want a league like Scotland or Spain where realistically only 2 or 3 teams can ever win the league, we cannot kill football in England to benefit the teams that are always in Europe.

We need a competitive league, we complain already about how poor the England football team is .. it will only get worse without competition in the domestic league. The large teams will simply crush the small teams.
 
Yeah but at the moment Chelsea are a better team than Liverpool. So it's in the same sense that Liverpool have to earn the right to be in the top 4. They've dropped and now they have to show they deserve the place, not just get more money from TV because they used to be better than other clubs.

In addition to which Chelsea have a large global fan base, particularly in Asia! This seems to me to be Elpistols frustration over Liverpools inability to deliver a PL title in 20 years ,coming out! I imagine all / most Liverpool fans feel the same. Any club that could market themselves in this way successfully ,should be allowed to do so, not just the so called top4.
 
Is it worth pointing out that Liverpool are only the 9th most valuable club in the World and 4th in England behind (the vastly bigger and better) Man U, (the tiny N London ambiguous club) Arsenal and the (even smaller ambiguous club in Hammersmith) Chelsea.

Rankings as of 20 April 2011.[1]

Rank Team Country Value ($M) Revenue ($M)
1 Manchester United England 1,864 428
2 Real Madrid Spain 1,451 537
3 Arsenal England 1,192 336
4 Bayern Munich Germany 1,048 396
5 Barcelona Spain 975 488
6 Milan Italy 838 289
7 Chelsea England 658 313
8 Juventus Italy 628 251
9 Liverpool England 552 276
10 Internazionale Italy 441 275

This obviously was probably very different 20+ years ago when Liverpool were sucessful.



Then according to a major football site, the most supported clubs in the World (based on views to Internet pages, games watched on the Internet etc.) are as follows:

1) Barcelona
2) Real
3) Man U
4) Arsenal
5) Ac Milan
6) Man Citeh ?????
7) Chelsea
8) Inter
9) Liverpool
10) Juve

Oh well. I suppose facts show things differently.

Anyway, I personally am opposed to the individual club negotiating their own deals, even though my club would benefit in the short term. For wont of a reason, see the league in Spain.
 
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