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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
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  1. kiwiqpr

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    will take your word for it
    or are you recommending it
     
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    Highly recommending it. All the best hashtags and flag news in one handy place.
     
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    ****ing hell bitter old **** who... hasn’t lived in the U.K. for over a decade. I was shocked to see a few digs at BLM.
     
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    62% of Leavers think Brexit made Britain's response to Covid 'better' -a view shared by close to 1/3 Remainers

    This stuff is significant going forward


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    10 dead in a supermarket
    been a while since a terrorist attack in the us
     
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    What the 8 shot dead in Georgia doesn’t count?
     
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    Is that Kiwi you're referring to?
     
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    no I had the misfortune of curiosity and looked at the twitter account...it was quite something, endless ‘stories’ about the EU, BLM, immigrants... oh
     
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    Priti Patel plans to introduce two-tier system to tackle illegal immigration

    Matt Dathan, Home Affairs Editor
    Wednesday March 24 2021, 11.45am, The Times
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    EU countries have a “moral duty to help” Britain tackle illegal immigration by taking back failed asylum seekers, Priti Patel has said.

    The home secretary will today unveil plans for “the biggest overhaul of the UK’s asylum system in decades” by creating a two-tier system that will for the first time treat those who come to the UK illegally differently from those who enter via legal routes.

    This morning Patel said that the government would strike deals with European countries to return migrants who come to the UK illegally having travelled via the Continent.

    However, she admitted that the UK had not signed any new agreements with European countries since it left the EU’s scheme for returning asylum seekers, which no longer applied to Britain after the end of the Brexit transition period.

    Attempting to put pressure on countries to agree new deals to take back asylum seekers, Patel told Sky News: “EU countries have a moral duty and a responsibility to be part of this solution.”

    In the absence of deals to return asylum seekers, those who arrive but have their claims rejected will face having to live in new purpose-built “reception centres” in the UK indefinitely, without recourse to public funds.

    It came after six boats carrying 183 migrants crossed the Channel to England on Tuesday - the highest daily figure this year.

    French authorities stopped about another 50 people from attempting the crossing yesterday, a Home Office spokesman said.

    Patel confirmed that she was looking at establishing offshore detention centres to accommodate failed asylum seekers, saying that she would “consider all options”.

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    “As part of this consultation we will put all options on the table in terms of working with third countries, and countries like Denmark already exploring options like this, and we will continue to explore bilaterally options in terms of returning and removing people that have come to the United Kingdom illegally,” she told Sky News.

    Patel denied allegations that the new two-tier system for treating asylum seekers was “inhumane”, saying that the changes were necessary to deal with the “terrible trade” of people smuggling and to fix the “broken” asylum system.

    Leading charities including the British Red Cross have criticised the changes for judging claimants on how they arrived and not just on merit.

    The charity said that the changes would create an “unfair two-tiered system” for asylum. Patel is setting out the full details of the reforms in the House of Commons this afternoon.

    The complex migrant crisis in the Channel
    Migrants who enter the UK illegally will be stripped of benefits, denied the full right to remain and be regularly reassessed for removal under an overhaul of the asylum system.

    It will ensure that asylum seekers who come to the UK illegally will have their status automatically downgraded on arrival.

    In contrast, those who come via new safe and legal routes will be allowed to stay permanently and be given state subsidies to help integrate.

    Patel told Times Radio: “We can’t just bring people to the UK and say, ‘We’re going to house you’. We need to get them ready for their new life before they even come to the UK. So for example, making sure that they’re supported in speaking English, sorting out access to education and skills, because these are the fundamental tools that will help people to resettle and start a fresh new life in the United Kingdom.”

    The plans will be announced in a 60-page “new plan for immigration” document billed as the “biggest overhaul of the UK’s asylum system in decades”.

    It is designed to eradicate the “pull factors” that are seen as having encouraged 8,420 people to cross the Channel in small boats last year. Yesterday the figure was 183 — the highest daily number this year.

    The Home Office said the changes would ensure that access to the asylum system was based on “genuine need of refuge, not on the ability to pay people smugglers”. It will be balanced with the creation of legal routes to deter people from making dangerous journeys, with priority given to persecuted minorities and those fleeing war. A separate humanitarian route to resettle those in immediate danger in their home country will be created.


    How will the new system work?
    Asylum seekers will be separated into two groups. Those who enter via legal routes will get more privileges than at present, such as indefinite leave to remain as soon as they arrive and access to improved benefits. Those who arrive illegally will have fewer rights: they will still get access to the NHS but have no recourse to public funds, losing a £38 weekly allowance. They will be housed in purpose-built centres. If applicants who have entered illegally succeed with their claims, they will be given a new, temporary protection status, rather than an automatic right to settle, and will be reassessed for removal.

    What is the intention?
    Priti Patel hopes the new system will make legal routes into the UK attractive enough to deter asylum seekers from attempting dangerous journeys across the Channel. The intention is to encourage genuine asylum seekers to apply for the new safe and legal routes. The twin-track approach is also designed to eradicate the “pull factors” behind illegal routes, which are controlled by gangs that make huge profits smuggling people to Britain.

    What are the pitfalls?
    The plans make it much clearer which asylum seekers will be viewed as legitimate and illegitimate. The big question that remains unanswered, however, is what happens to asylum seekers who are rejected. Britain does not at present have any deals with EU countries for returning illegal migrants who travel from the Continent. If Britain cannot remove people who arrive illegally, they will be stuck in reception centres indefinitely, with the risk they will fall into destitution.


    What will the changes mean for asylum seekers already in the system?
    There are more than 64,000 people in dispersal accommodation in Britain awaiting a decision on their asylum claim. Seven in ten of these have been waiting more than six months. The changes cannot be imposed retrospectively, which leaves a huge backlog of asylum claims waiting to be processed.
     
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    “Britain does not at present have any deals with EU countries for returning illegal migrants who travel from the Continent.”

    The good folk of East Brexitshire didn’t win two world wars and lend the Tories their votes for this.
     
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    another racist tory mp
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    Patel complained that the Dublin Convention, which allowed this, isn't working. The thing is, Priti, we're not in it any more.

    Brexit, remember?
     
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    Cmon Nigel, not even Boris believes what Boris says!!!
     
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    We will not be cutting the armed forces in any form!! :emoticon-0127-lipss:emoticon-0127-lipss:emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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