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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
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I know. My point was that whether Starmer is great, useless or anything in between makes barely any difference to how many votes he’ll get and less than that amongst the working classes who apparently will vote en masse for this government again, who piss on them daily.

I’m not a working class person and even if I was I wouldn’t necessarily speak for anyone else but what the **** can anyone see in this lot after the decade they’ve put the least well off and vulnerable through?
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I know. My point was that whether Starmer is great, useless or anything in between makes barely any difference to how many votes he’ll get and less than that amongst the working classes who apparently will vote en masse for this government again, who piss on them daily.

I’m not a working class person and even if I was I wouldn’t necessarily speak for anyone else but what the **** can anyone see in this lot after the decade they’ve put the least well off and vulnerable through?

Very good point.....and the sad fact that even though this current lot are quite clearly only on the side of the rich and powerful...they still seem to be more appealing to working class voters than the liberals that currently inhabit the Labour Party.
That truly is a sorry state of affairs and if Labour is ever to mount some kind of challenge for government, they must surely address this. However, many former supporters, like myself, have given up and realised, especially after Corbyn was curtailed and finally ousted from within, that no change in Labour will ever take place and have therefore given their loyalty to others.
 
Tories are the party of the working class. Labour are the party of the illegal immigrants. :emoticon-0100-smile

But why do working class people now see more for them in the Tory party than in Labour ?
Possibly due to the fact that Labour seem more interested in taking the knee for a career criminal being killed in the States rather than why people have to wait 3 weeks to see a GP
Or maybe that they seem more interested in letting a man with a penis use the women’s changing room ‘cos they identify as a woman rather than why their kids will never have access to affordable social housing.

It’s all about what’s important to people.
 
Most of them have probably mastered question marks though.
Here we go again?
You are avoiding the point.
Labour are crap. The last leader was antisemetic with idiots. The new leader is a dud with even more idiots. Don't knock the public because they don't want idiots like them running the country. Rather than keep moaning, just watch the Dodds interview on Sky... the one before they dropped her. That should make anyone change their vote. <laugh>
 
Tories are the party of the working class. Labour are the party of the illegal immigrants. :emoticon-0100-smile

Tories **** on the working class and always have done. Working class people who vote for them are fools.

A Tory, a worker, and an immigrant are sitting at a table with 20 biscuits. The Tory takes 19 biscuits and warns the worker: “Watch out, the immigrant is going to take your biscuit away"
 
Tories **** on the working class and always have done. Working class people who vote for them are fools.

A Tory, a worker, and an immigrant are sitting at a table with 20 biscuits. The Tory takes 19 biscuits and warns the worker: “Watch out, the immigrant is going to take your biscuit away"
Was he an illegal immigrant?
 
Here we go again?
You are avoiding the point.
Labour are crap. The last leader was antisemetic with idiots. The new leader is a dud with even more idiots. Don't knock the public because they don't want idiots like them running the country. Rather than keep moaning, just watch the Dodds interview on Sky... the one before they dropped her. That should make anyone change their vote. <laugh>

Again though, that assumes that I) the alternative is demonstrably better when they’ve spent ten years making them poorer and killing their elderly relative and II) a significant number of people are interested enough in politics to know literally anything about the opposition which isn’t the case unless it’s in The Sun.

Anti-semitism or racism in general is hardly a vote loser. The right have been preying on simple people’s racism forever.
 
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Again though, that assumes that I) the alternative is demonstrably better when they’ve spent ten years making them poorer and killing their elderly relative and II) a significant number of people are interested enough in politics to know literally anything about the opposition which isn’t the case unless it’s in The Sun.

Anti-semitism or racism in general is hardly a vote loser. The right have been preying on simple people’s racism forever.

Shhh don’t mention all the bigoted things Johnson has said personally, also don’t mention that per party member the number of complaints against the Conservative party for islamaphobia was substantially higher, or is it ok because erm yeah, why is that ok?
 
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Again though, that assumes that I) the alternative is demonstrably better when they’ve spent ten years making them poorer and killing their elderly relative and II) a significant number of people are interested enough in politics to know literally anything about the opposition which isn’t the case unless it’s in The Sun.

Anti-semitism or racism in general is hardly a vote loser. The right have been preying on simple people’s racism forever.
Although Jezza is anti-Semitic and his response after that report must have turned people away from the party? We don't need to go over old ground as we all know now. Starmer and his droids are dreadful. I can see why people won't vote for them. Times have changed and voters have as well. All that working class stuff went years ago. We are a modern society and need modern politics and sadly Labour doesn't offer that. The Limps are more forward thinking.
 
The majority of working class people (up here) dont even recognise themselves as working class anymore. They can get everything on tick and , pile up the debts and pen themselves as middle class cos theyve a brand new beamer on the drive. They shop at waitrose cos it makes them look more important. They dislike immigrants because the media have told them they are pinching their jobs. I see it on a daily basis up here, people want to believe they are more than what they are.
 
Although Jezza is anti-Semitic and his response after that report must have turned people away from the party? We don't need to go over old ground as we all know now. Starmer and his droids are dreadful. I can see why people won't vote for them. Times have changed and voters have as well. All that working class stuff went years ago. We are a modern society and need modern politics and sadly Labour doesn't offer that. The Limps are more forward thinking.
I cant remember the amount of times people have asked you to provide evidence that Corbyn is antisemitic. Think they are all still waiting.
 
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Shhh don’t mention all the bigoted things Johnson has said personally, also don’t mention that per party member the number of complaints against the Conservative party for islamaphobia was substantially higher, or is it ok because erm yeah, why is that ok?

Modern politics for modern people, apparently.