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BCFCRob said:
It's funny you mention that fluid feeling in the lungs actually - I'd forgotten about that symptom but I definitely had it too. Almost like a feeling of having to cough something up in my throat, but far further down, right at the bottom. Nowhere near as bad as yours mind!

I actually found Covid pretty easy compared to even my housemates who are younger than me (pot luck of course), but the past week or two I've definitely had some very unusual chest experiences which I can only put down to 'long Covid'. Constant pressure below the sternum, the odd burning pain that comes and goes, and heart palpitations too. I have a feeling it can take a while to get over it 100%. And I'm relatively 'low risk'!

Just out of interest @oneforthebristolcity, to go back to the previous topic, having read your stance on this, at what point would you get the vaccine? Ignoring travel rules and stuff like that, is there any point where you'd think, right, this is safe enough for me to take, and it might prevent me from having a pretty horrible experience?

The problem is, and I mean this in a nice way, but you do continually downplay it quite a lot. But I think pretty much all people on this forum now know someone that has had it. Most know someone that has had a bad experience from it. And you have a great chance here to avoid going through a horrendous experience, of struggling to breathe and potentially dying, why wouldn't you take that up? And the thing is, nobody ever thinks it will happen to them... until it does.
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Well I only know the odd person that's had it and got over it like a dose of flu, apart from those on here that have had it worse, like yourself.
I don't particularly have a problem with the vaccines available although it's still very early days to know the impact or the affects.
Like I've said above, I'm happy to take my own chances, I believe the risk to me is minimal and I have a far far greater risk of developing cancer which in my opinion is 1000 times more likely to kill me than Covid....
By the way.....how do we know, that these vaccines, full on antibiotics etc aren't a contributor to forms of cancers?? Sort of thing we won't know about for years to come..
I honestly prefer to let nature take it's course!!
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Like I've said above, I'm happy to take my own chances, I believe the risk to me is minimal and I have a far far greater risk of developing cancer which in my opinion is 1000 times more likely to kill me than Covid....
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Fair enough mate but the entire argument is based on this, which is categorically wrong.
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Of which we are led to believe.. time will tell
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Yeah I get that you don't believe the numbers - but everyone here knows someone that has had it. Plenty here have had it themselves. I know 2 people (not close to me thankfully) that have died from it. Surely that tells you something?
 
BCFCRob said:
Yeah I get that you don't believe the numbers - but everyone here knows someone that has had it. Plenty here have had it themselves. I know 2 people (not close to me thankfully) that have died from it. Surely that tells you something?
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We have the same argument..
I know many people that have had and died of other illnesses, far more than Covid....that tells me something too..
Sorry mate, but you're wasting your time with me on this one..Many on here see it as black and white... I don't believe the numbers, I don't believe the scaremongering. I'm sceptical regarding the vaccines & lockdowns....
I'm really happy with my own decision making, I don't need anyone lecturing me what is right, wrong, true or false.....not on here, certainly not from the media or any government in power..
There is more, to how the world around us is changing, political, financial and power, just through this so say pandemic.....eyes still wide open, where and how it's taking us...
Give up on me mate.............I would!!!
 
When you say you don't believe the scaremongering, that's really quite frustrating when people here have been affected by it. For you to say you don't believe it is almost to say that they're talking nonsense. But on the last bit, yep absolutely, you're free to your choice of course, fair enough :emoticon-0148-yes:.
 
BCFCRob said:
When you say you don't believe the scaremongering, that's really quite frustrating when people here have been affected by it. For you to say you don't believe it is almost to say that they're talking nonsense. But on the last bit, yep absolutely, you're free to your choice of course, fair enough :emoticon-0148-yes:.
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Not meaning to be frustrating mate, I understand those that have been through it, I know quite a few people (many more than from Covid) that's been affected & died from cancer, heart disease, pneumonia, sepsis & effects from COPD. no scaremongering towards those illnesses through the media, the mass that believe them or anywhere else for that matter...
 
Reliant Robin TC2 said:
I have been reading this thread for ages and have been quite intrigued by your stance on this. To a degree, I can identify with you, in that I'm now 66, have never been in hospital (other than for sports injuries/visiting), avoid tablets as much as I can (other than for gout which can be a nightmare in itself) and regard myself as having a pretty robust immune system.

I retired from my chosen profession 12 years ago and for some years have been gardening for others. As a result, I'm quite fit for my age and am outdoors much of the time. Given what is going on, and "crowded" places, I have been fairly careful in where I've been and how I've conducted myself.

I really enjoyed Christmas, but on 28th December I didn't feel "right". On 29th I had an irritating cough start. It was the same as those I sometimes get in the winter, so thought nothing of it. The following day it had developed into a deep, hacking cough that I couldn't placate. It continued 24/7 for 7 days. During that time I was tested and returned a positive result. I couldn't believe the crap I brought up from my lungs; it was a deep olive green and there was masses of it. I had to sleep in a separate bedroom so my wife could try to sleep. Each night I got through almost a complete toilet roll of tissue paper that I was spitting into. During some coughing sessions, I could feel the mucus "rattling" about at the bottom of my lungs, an experience I've never had before and certainly don't want again.

Toward the end of the 7 days a very good friend face-timed us. She is a senior nurse and nurse trainer; hearing my cough, she suggested that I should go to hospital. I felt that my symptoms had plateaued so left it - had it worsened, I would have been straight in there. During the whole episode I lost 10lbs in weight in 9 days

Two days ago (8 weeks after first symptoms) I went back to gardening for the first time. I did 3 hours gentle work and felt ****ed!

Strangely enough, one of the worst things was not the physical side of covid; the message informing me of the positive test came through just before 6pm on Sunday 3rd Jan. Shortly after, the evening news was on the TV. The headlines were about the 50k plus positive tests in the previous 24 hrs. A commentator then said that some of these will be next weeks hospital admissions and subsequent deaths!! That played on my mind for a couple of days.

From my experience I would recommend that anyone offered the jab should have it!
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Wish there was a different button to click rather than like.
I have not had it, but as I said on here attended 2 funerals (online) with friends dying from it. One turned 50 whilst in a coma and the other 52. One was a manual worker and also a kids rugby coach and played when possible. The other was an keen nature photographer and had dogs that were in crufts, so out walking them for miles a day as well as going out walking to take his photographs. So both were not unfit people. All I know is one of them had mild asthma when a child but was not on daily inhalers and very rarely used it. The other had a damaged shoulder so no real underlying illnesses there.
As you’ve pointed out, you thought you were fit and a good immune system so it shows it does not work that way. Maybe Onefor might get his head out of his arse (ostrich) and get his vaccine done soon.
Hopefully you get back to your normal self sooner rather than later.
 
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oneforthebristolcity said:
I did, I let someone else have my Jab to protect them......pretty thoughtful if you ask me......
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well at the end of the day in every vaccination centre more than 1 or 2 jabs are wasted … so thinking that way is a misnomer .. they do not put the unused "drops" back in the fridge till tomorrow or next session … my wife and another member of staff had their jabs a week early because after using the quantity they had designated for the home .. residents there 2 or 3 jabs left in the phial … right place right time only 1 got wasted … so not really thoughtful! your jab was probably wasted ….. at the centre you were assigned to ……:emoticon-0149-no:
 
RedorDead said:
Had a call today, asking where am I. Told them I’ve not been booked in, so they said if I come now I can be done today. I told her to warm the needle up I’m on my way.
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same story my neighbours having breakfast text on phone come now and we will jab you [start of January! ]
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Not meaning to be frustrating mate, I understand those that have been through it, I know quite a few people (many more than from Covid) that's been affected & died from cancer, heart disease, pneumonia, sepsis & effects from COPD. no scaremongering towards those illnesses through the media, the mass that believe them or anywhere else for that matter...
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How many of those more than Covid was in the past year?
 
realred1952 said:
well at the end of the day in every vaccination centre more than 1 or 2 jabs are wasted … so thinking that way is a misnomer .. they do not put the unused "drops" back in the fridge till tomorrow or next session … my wife and another member of staff had their jabs a week early because after using the quantity they had designated for the home .. residents there 2 or 3 jabs left in the phial … right place right time only 1 got wasted … so not really thoughtful! your jab was probably wasted ….. at the centre you were assigned to ……:emoticon-0149-no:
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No because I wasn't due for it, it was the end of a session and the practice rang around to finish the batch off, I could have had it but told them to give it to the next person in line..which they did...Nothing wasted and so yes I was very thoughtful.. Next?
 
RedorDead said:
How many of those more than Covid was in the past year?
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Of whom I knew......2 have died of Cancer, one died of heart attack....I Also know one, just had bypass from having a heart attack just a few weeks ago and also know someone in Ireland that's been waiting for major heart surgery for over a year........also a friend who's on their 2nd batch of chemo following liver operation removing cancer..
Of Covid, I personally don't know anyone that's had Covid or died OF/from it.
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
No because I wasn't due for it, it was the end of a session and the practice rang around to finish the batch off, I could have had it but told them to give it to the next person in line..which they did...Nothing wasted and so yes I was very thoughtful.. Next?
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so what time did you get the call!
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Of whom I knew......2 have died of Cancer, one died of heart attack....I Also know one, just had bypass from having a heart attack just a few weeks ago and also know someone in Ireland that's been waiting for major heart surgery for over a year........also a friend who's on their 2nd batch of chemo following liver operation removing cancer..
Of Covid, I personally don't know anyone that's had Covid or died OF/from it.
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My count is 2 Covid, one cancer and one heart attack.
 
RedorDead said:
My count is 2 Covid, one cancer and one heart attack.
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This is why I feel soooo lucky in that I have not had to undergo anything other than covid, proper flu (x2), mumps, a real migraine, colds and various sporting injuries!

We found out through an antibody test that my wife has had covid; she is immune suppressed and shielding, yet any sypmtoms she may have had were extremely light. After it all, she told me that she was really concerned about me as she has never seen me so ill.

One lady that I do some gardening for is 73, clinically obese, diabetic and now has dementia. I know for a fact that she has only been out of her house twice in the last 15 months and she caught covid from one of her day carers. Apparently the only symptoms she had was that she was a bit grumpy!!

In some ways I simpathise with/understand 1for, but I honestly hope he doesn't get it.
 
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